White SATS

Darur wrote: Economic status plays no role in the racism towards whites in Hawaii, well a slight one, but its all about Hawaii's history. ...  You can argue all you want about how its the same as it is on the mainland, but it is not.  It may be similar, but it is not the same.

Race relations are always different from place to place.  They are very different in New York from Atlanta, from Tokyo, and certainly from Hawaii.  Local history always plays a part.  Certainly.

But to conclude from that that current economic conditions are not that important is to overlook the obvious.  When you drive around Hawaii, who lives in the little shacks on the side of the street?  It's not white people or Japanese...

Native Hawaiians grow up, remembering how this is "their" island, and then seeing how all the Japanese and haoles have most of the good jobs, more money, and don't live in shacks - how can they NOT harbor some resentment?

History is certainly a part of race relations everywhere - but so is current status.

E-98 wrote: Clark Kent wrote: http://www.calstatela.edu/centers/ckaks/census/71803_table5. pdf Sorry Clark, but I fail to see any relevance in this link.

My point:

In every state in this country, including Hawaii, whites (as a group) do all right.  They aren't always the richest group, but they are NEVER the poorest, and not by a long shot.

In Hawaii, there are twice as many poor Pacific Islanders as there are poor whites.  That race advantage is even bigger in other states.  Whites as a group are never disadvantaged.  Not even in Hawaii, which arguably is more part of Japan than the US.

My point is this:  If God picked you up, and said "ok, do-over time.  You are going to be reborn (literally) back on your original birthday.  I will pick a random location within the US, and a random social class, and a random family, and a random body with random intellect, but you get to pick your new race.  Choose now."

Putting aside any sentimental preferences for the moment - based solely on the overall life advantage of being of one race versus another, white would be the only logical choice.  If you think being able to use "n1gger" with immunity, and the occasional affirmative action, makes up for the tremendous advantages that whites have in this country, you haven't looked around enough.

Someone told me that races like black and Hispanic get extra points on the SATs. I guess they were wrong?

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Zesty said, "If you, as a Mexican person, feel it is your right to disrespect my entire race, then I feel I should be able to say whatever I want about your race without being labeled a racist. Fair is fair."

That's how I see it. If only other people did.

Snipa69 wrote: Clark, you can't exactly wright off anyones responses as rants accept for the originator of this post. Generaly, everything else is just opinions, perhaps bad ones, but opinions none the less. Mainly, I am refering to Zesty's posts that you would only accept as a 'rant'. He has some well structured thoughts placed in to his responses here and with that being the case, you can't lable it as a rant.

I figure his post met the 'rant' criteria - explanation points, rhetorical questions, edited obscenities, and the obligatory "I don't care".   :)

I'll admit I read it rather quickly.

Why don't you post some thoughts on the subject rather than sit in the thread and try to predict what the twists and turns might bring?

Exhaustion.

We have had several of these threads in the last few days and weeks, and I am exhausted by them.  They all seem to go in the same direction, I seem to make the same posts, and I am just exhausted.  Maybe later I'll feel up to an actual substantive post on the subject.

:)

Clark Kent wrote: .Ryan wrote: A lot of, if not most, black people just have this victim complex in which nothing is their fault and everyone owes them everything.   Certainly true of many black folk, but I think you will find that this complex is hardly the sole domain of black people...   We are seeing some examples....

That's almost always true of almost all "cultural groups" (damn you, political correctness).

My advice is just let it drop. Reguardless of whom is racist towards whom ever, the bottom line is everyone is entitled to the same rights. Why sould some groups be entitled to more rights than others? (or the "right" to say what ever the hell they want with out being critisized beacuse the critisiser does not want to be labeleed as a "racist") (Yes, I'm talking about blacks and their beloved "race card")

The purpose of life is to get drunk, party all over the place, rock out, and enjoy what rights are given to you by the government. Don't let anyone prevent you from doing that beacuse they are lethargic and unqualified for a job (which the just snatched out from under you, beacuse their skin is a darker brown color than yours is.)

Wow, this post went no where. It started out with a good message, but my inferior english skills sort of caused it to go to hell. (ironicaly, english is my first and only language)