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Johndcjr1989
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well im a white and proud but not racist. like sometimes theyre are stereotypes of all races that get picked on or made fun of just jokingly with no racist motive behind it. i still fly the rebel flag but to me it stands for southern heritage and not for hatred. but if one of my teachers had **edited** like that in her classroom and i saw it i would be like what the **edited** was that and start causing trouble and then just leave to go to the principal or something.
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Tae Kwon Do
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If they get a black history week how come I dont get a white history week.
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Clark Kent
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Race relations are always different from place to place. They are very different in New York from Atlanta, from Tokyo, and certainly from Hawaii. Local history always plays a part. Certainly. But to conclude from that that current economic conditions are not that important is to overlook the obvious. When you drive around Hawaii, who lives in the little shacks on the side of the street? It's not white people or Japanese... Native Hawaiians grow up, remembering how this is "their" island, and then seeing how all the Japanese and haoles have most of the good jobs, more money, and don't live in shacks - how can they NOT harbor some resentment? History is certainly a part of race relations everywhere - but so is current status. |
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Darur
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Economic status plays no role in the racism towards whites in Hawaii, well a slight one, but its all about Hawaii's history. As some of you may know, over 100 years ago a group of American bussinessmen overthrew the queen and were responsible for the annexation of Hawaii. They did this because of the tax on Sugar being imported into the United States. Because these bussinessmen overthrew the queen they hold a deep grudge towards whites. It doesnt stop there. Because Hawaiians had no exposure to diseases like Europeans, they became infected easily and many died from diseses brought with explorers and missionaries. Because of European influence the Hawaiian people began to die out Now, its been over 100 years, Whites certainetly did not intend for so much loss towards Hawaiians, but it happened. Its different there, the only whites in Hawaii that are racist towards Hawaiians are like that because of racism towards them. You can argue all you want about how its the same as it is on the mainland, but it is not. It may be similar, but it is not the same. |
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Clark Kent
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My point: In every state in this country, including Hawaii, whites (as a group) do all right. They aren't always the richest group, but they are NEVER the poorest, and not by a long shot. In Hawaii, there are twice as many poor Pacific Islanders as there are poor whites. That race advantage is even bigger in other states. Whites as a group are never disadvantaged. Not even in Hawaii, which arguably is more part of Japan than the US. My point is this: If God picked you up, and said "ok, do-over time. You are going to be reborn (literally) back on your original birthday. I will pick a random location within the US, and a random social class, and a random family, and a random body with random intellect, but you get to pick your new race. Choose now." Putting aside any sentimental preferences for the moment - based solely on the overall life advantage of being of one race versus another, white would be the only logical choice. If you think being able to use "n1gger" with immunity, and the occasional affirmative action, makes up for the tremendous advantages that whites have in this country, you haven't looked around enough.
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E-98
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Sorry Clark, but I fail to see any relevance in this link. |
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St. Jimmy
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No, I don't mean it in a sense that I dislike the whole group but I mean it to get back at the specific person.
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Clark Kent
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Wrong. Not true. Some colleges give extra admission points to minorities, but the SAT scores are neutral. Individual test items are routinely discarded when they are statistically disfavorable to one group or another, but that is a different matter...
That just makes you both racists, assuming you mean what you are saying. Racism is an attitude and a belief system, not a form of retaliation. Words may reflect beliefs, but they do not create them. |
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St. Jimmy
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Someone told me that races like black and Hispanic get extra points on the SATs. I guess they were wrong? too lazy for quote button... That's how I see it. If only other people did. |
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Darur
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Tourists and new residents especially, but whites in general. Dont get me wrong, there are plenty of nice Hawaiians, quite a few are friends of mine (Kulia if you remember her), but a fair share of them are about as narrowminded as the KKK. |
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DBibeau855
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Thats to be expected, i doubt they are very much liked. Are these outsiders? Or just white. |
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Clark Kent
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Darur
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*off topic I know* I dont know about the mainland, but in Hawaii that statement is true. If I get a chance I will take pictures of the blatent Racism towards Whites in Hawaii |
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Zesty
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Clark, you are right, my post was a rant, but just because it's a rant does not mean there are no specific points to address....you just choose to ignore them.
I don't have time to get all into it right now, but my basic annoyance is with the whole "minority" label. I live in California and am white, that makes ME the minority! Yet, when someone has something to say about the white race, I don't call them a racist and tell them to shut their mouths...they have the right to free speech, which I should also have. If you, as a Mexican person, feel it is your right to disrespect my entire race, then I feel I should be able to say whatever I want about your race without being labeled a racist. Fair is fair. |
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Clark Kent
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I figure his post met the 'rant' criteria - explanation points, rhetorical questions, edited obscenities, and the obligatory "I don't care". :) I'll admit I read it rather quickly.
Exhaustion. We have had several of these threads in the last few days and weeks, and I am exhausted by them. They all seem to go in the same direction, I seem to make the same posts, and I am just exhausted. Maybe later I'll feel up to an actual substantive post on the subject. :) Edited by Clark Kent |
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Snipa69
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Narrow the population of the world down to 100 and you will find that white people are actually the minority, with 70 people being non-white. 50 would suffer from malnutrition, and 6 people would poses 59% of the worlds population; all 6 would be from the United States. There would only be 8 Africans in this equation. Do what you will with this information, I just thought it was quite interesting to think about. Clark, you can't exactly wright off anyones responses as rants accept for the originator of this post. Generaly, everything else is just opinions, perhaps bad ones, but opinions none the less. Mainly, I am refering to Zesty's posts that you would only accept as a 'rant'. He has some well structured thoughts placed in to his responses here and with that being the case, you can't lable it as a rant. Why don't you post some thoughts on the subject rather than sit in the thread and try to predict what the twists and turns might bring? Ignorance is bliss paintball1, don't try to argue with it because those who live in such bliss will seldom refuse to come out of it. You were right in what you said, that since you sat in the same class as the girl who exchanged thoughts on the subject that you both had an equal shot. The test does not know what gender is, it does not know what race is. She doesn't get a different test just because shes black, nor because she is female. She gets the same test as everyone else; the test scores at the end reflect how well she paid attention and absorbed information durring her classes. Can we be angry at her for what she said? Absolutely not. It's her opinion, and while be may be able to disagree with it, we still should respect it. Keep in mind she does not speak for the whole African American population. And it would be nice if everyone would get the idea of 'reverse' racism out of their heads. Racism isn't just white people against black people, it's also everything else too. It can be black people against white people, asian people against arabic people, it holds no boundries. |
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DBibeau855
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I will spell how ever i want. The stuff people bring up in a discusion here is so petty.
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Hades
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***Not to belt.***
* rolls eyes * Your anti - ebonics theory goes out the window, with your lack of ability to spell in "English." Edited by Hades |
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Belt #2
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That's almost always true of almost all "cultural groups" (damn you, political correctness). My advice is just let it drop. Reguardless of whom is racist towards whom ever, the bottom line is everyone is entitled to the same rights. Why sould some groups be entitled to more rights than others? (or the "right" to say what ever the hell they want with out being critisized beacuse the critisiser does not want to be labeleed as a "racist") (Yes, I'm talking about blacks and their beloved "race card") The purpose of life is to get drunk, party all over the place, rock out, and enjoy what rights are given to you by the government. Don't let anyone prevent you from doing that beacuse they are lethargic and unqualified for a job (which the just snatched out from under you, beacuse their skin is a darker brown color than yours is.)
Wow, this post went no where. It started out with a good message, but my inferior english skills sort of caused it to go to hell. (ironicaly, english is my first and only language) |
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Most importantly - People suck.
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DBibeau855
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Many many people have victom complexes. Black, white, cuban, asian, Indian, native americans. The victim complex, or what i call "not my fault-cop out" is rampant in society. Rarely do you hear after a car accident "Oh my gosh are you ok that was really scary" Its almost always "OH MY GOD MY CAR" And in class i hear all to ofter. "I didnt skip one time dis quarter i shud git a A" At witch i say "You do know this is english class..right?" At witch point she says "Is caaalled EBONIX." Wich is just another cop out for the public school system failing to take notice of a black childs lack of grammar skills and not instructing him or her that way our tax dollars intended.
Right now, in america, and you are white, you had better keep on your toes! Or else, if you piss the wrong person off you WILL be labeled a RACIST, my advice to the white people that are reading this is, dont say anything that can be construed as racist, be calm in what you say. And be strong and confident that you are white. You have a lot of heritage going through your skin. Weather you are scotish. You have william wolace to be proud of. If you are french, you have louis pasteur. If you are of british decent you have William Church hill to be proud of. Pride is not a privalage reserved for the minorities of the united states! |
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