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brihard
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Mechanically speaking, it should be feasible. The 3rd burst has been a
feature on M16 rifles for a long time, and safe-semi-burst-full is a
common trigger group for MP5s, which posess a small trigger frame. Real
firearms have no more space in the trigger housing than a paintball
marker, so the mechanism should fit if someone figures it out. I can't
find mechanism schematics, unfortunately, however the concept of a
trigger, sear, adn bolt is the same- ther'es very little differnec
ebetween the trigger mechanism in my assault rifle and that of a
Tippmann, except for a slightly more complicated sear which would be
optional in a paintball marker anyway.
The trouble is that a paintball marker cycles far faster than an M16 rifle- the bolt has much less distance to travel, and so the cycles per minute are much faster. Because of this, and becuae a bullet is much more resistant to crushing and impact than a paintball, the big limitation is the loader. Unfortunate,y if you slow down the cycles per second, you slow down the speed of the bullet, which throws the valve out of whack. Theoretically with longer bolt travel, a lighter valve spring, and a low pressure system, you could make a mechanical fully auto that wouldn't blend paint, as long as your leader could keep up- a Qlaoder for instance. Aside from that, the only mechanical alternatives are the ATS markers where the mag is mechanically linked to the firing sequence, and the RAP markers where each one's in a cartridge to protect it from squashing. A select-fire mechanical mag fed paintball marker is one fo teh hoyl grails of MilSim. ATS ahs done it with good success, but slimmer packages are always in demand. Scepter has something in the works, and probably a few other companies as well. Keep your eyes and ears open in the next few eyars- something good is bound to be in development somehwere. |
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because if you shoot 18 balls a second then you only need to pull the trigger 2 times a second. Saves a lot of work.
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whack-a-mole
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9 round burst...pphht, why?
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Darur, did you just turn british?
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K, whats the point of a 9 shot burst? Your going to be standign
there for like a second after you pull the trigger waiting for the
bloody thing to stop shooting.
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dont use burst or full auto use double taps they are mor efficient... go out and get some SAS (Special Air Service) or other combat manuals to see how to best use your guns... but ultimatly it depends on situation, it is true that a burst of more than 3 rounds is a waste, only use full auto if your providing cover fire. but bursts in paintball are almost useless because if they are short they usually go in one general area, and in long bursts you might as well use full auto in which you either cant aim or are providing cover fire. Burst mode is used by the military to ensure a kill, in fact the SAS used "double taps" for hostige situations until it was found that some people still could muster the strength to shoot back so now they shoot untill the target drops. but in paintball double taps are still usefull because it allows you one shot to range, then another shot to kill. and you are in full control, so if you arnt hitting your target you are not wasting 6 rounds on a piece of ply wood
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i still say use auto, just let go when ever you want and then theres your "burst".
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my spyder has semi-3round-and full auto, but im getting rid of it...hehehe...got an angel
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kuhndog599
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really whats the use for 9 round burst
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model 98 - homemade handguard
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with auto you can have any round burst you want. well my friend hasa dragon bonz and it has any burst from 2-12 round bursts.
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Uh.. no? 6 round bursts are the max I would consider, 9 is just silly. "Real Combat" rifles use anything from single-shot, 2, 3, or full-auto for a few very good reasons. |
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Acctualy, most guns don't do that. My little brother's spyder and my pirahna (bought it for super cheap to sell for even more) shooot UP TO 3/6/9 rounds as long as you are still pulling the trigger. I believe the same us true on real guns. |
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Yeah it's called the E-Bolt for the 98c or the E-Grip for the A-5. It would be cool if someone made a cheap version of them that was just as good(by cheap I mean the price).
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cuz auto is stupid y use it when u can shoot even faster with multiple bursts |
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i no.just think,u pull the trig once and like 3 sec later,its still shooting but u arent even pulling thr trig.all i need is semi -jake |
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I cant stand bursts. 9 rounds? Little much maybe?
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Cockers are like stick shifts, after a few transmissions you get the hang of them.
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yea wat u mean man most grips like me old e-rex pro had custom set
burst ne were form 2-20 round lol no need to have 3,6,9 when u can just
have one and make ur own.
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safe, semi, burst, full should be the standard. or safe semi full would be acceptable too. where did 6 and 9 round bursts come from????? Edited by JaketheSnakeOO7 |
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