War Protesters

oldsoldier wrote: Do we feel any better or safer, for most probably not for many here, or our "brave" protesters never saw first hand how in thier mind glorious "Peoples Liberation Armies" or "National Liberation Fronts" or whatever the tyrant of the day cares to claim his force is called treats his own peoples who may thru a moment of freedom not agree with the resident tyrants minions.

OS, way to put words into our mouths, no one was trumpeting how great Saddam was, hell We agree, evil man. So why don't you just shove those lies right up in there?

oldsoldier wrote: As for the "babykiller" reference, you two smitty"s need to review your past postings...and I quote...."But our entire nation calls little dead children in Iraq "collateral damage." Are our little white American fetuses more precious than little brown Iraqi ones?" veiled referance but the point is American servicemen still intentionally kill "little dead children".

Hmm, and yet more masterful word twisting, great, for propogandist agitation, not so great for honest debate. No one is insinuating that soldiers are deliberatly killing iraqi children (IE baby killers), this is to compare the right wings enormous concern over a few aborted fetuses to their apathy towards tens of thousands of innocent iraqi's.

oldsoldier wrote: And where was all the rightious indignation while the Democratic hero Mr Clinton was bombing "aspirin factories", "babyfood plants" and even a real honest to god "Chinese Embasy" with real Chinese inside, and all the deaths of innocent Serb children killed by the bombings, oh we were too worried on the vast right wing conspiricy while Mr Clinton was getting ......skys.....

It was right here... (Not as much as the current one, but that was because I was around 11 at the time.)

oldsoldier wrote: At least be consistant folks......protest all wars, acts of aggression, attrocities, not the ones the DNC decides may get them back into power again.

We do, all the ones that make no sense.

oldsoldier wrote: And maybe, just maybe if these protestors actually did some true investigating instead of hoping on the popular bandwagon, many of these DNC talking points may be questioned, but by their agenda, they prefere not to for the true point of the exercise is as usual an attack on President Bush, and his administration....no true Democratic ideas to spout other than Bush is wrong.

Yeah, some just jump on the bandwagon, but the real instigators and the ones who keep going are only supporting THEIR Ideals, not the DNC. The democratic party is dead, its a slightly less conservative Republican party.

oldsoldier wrote: Not revisionist history, just history in its cycle of repeating itself again....65 years later....Radical Islam and its individual and or nation state supporters are no threat to the west..........

What about radical American nationalism and movement away from a free society? What about our imperialist expansion?






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Our computer labs all have Doom 95 mysteriously present...

It even has online multiplayer.

^^^^  Demons.  In Doom the Marine shoots demons, not aliens.  Get your classic FPS right - sheesh!

Their MAIN motif was society looking down upon them.

They were the kids always called "**edited**s" and "**edited**" and things like that.

All they wanted was revenge and how society is degrading. Look at Rome.

Great empire until they had to much. Couldn't handle it, and they died out.

Isn't that what America is becoming?

Bolt3 wrote: Bowling for Columbine. Good movie. Go watch it.

Really annoying/boring/stupid movie.

 

OS wrote: .....care to compare the youth violent crime rate pre video game era to today...may shock you

Good reason why correlational statistics should be kept out of the hands of the underinformed.

 

BTW, OS, not to get picky or anything, but a sig complaining about idiots works a lot better with proper spelling.  You might want to fix that.

OS's Sig wrote: My motto is: Never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to thier level and beat you with expierience.

Although at least you aren't calling people "retarted", unlike some of our members...

Yes, but don't they have the EXACT same things in other countries? Don't most of those things actually come from other countries?

/me only 14 so don't beat me up.

Bowling for Columbine.

Good movie.

Go watch it.

Americans kill eachother with guns thousands more times than other countries and our friendly neighbors to the north.

Amercians are violent people.

It's not the soldiers faults' but their leaders.

Wonderfull little debate, problem is I have heard it all before, 35 or so years ago......

Do we feel any better or safer, for most probably not for many here, or our "brave" protesters never saw first hand how in thier mind glorious "Peoples Liberation Armies" or "National Liberation Fronts" or whatever the tyrant of the day cares to claim his force is called treats his own peoples who may thru a moment of freedom not agree with the resident tyrants minions. Many of you have no idea what a true attrocity is, never smelled death a klick away as you approach a ville, never seen a victim of a mass rape, or a disembowled village elder, or a dismembered child, in you mind a true attrocity is only a stack of naked Iraqis where the intent of the exercise is to remove the only thing we could thier dignaty, and if you do not understand the methodology that in itself shows the ignorance and blindness of the pacifist. And by the way never saw a news man or camaraman takin any pictures of any of these Vietnamese villes, or Honduran villes, because even then it did not meet the agendas of the time.

As for the "babykiller" reference, you two smitty"s need to review your past postings...and I quote...."But our entire nation calls little dead children in Iraq "collateral damage." Are our little white American fetuses more precious than little brown Iraqi ones?" veiled referance but the point is American servicemen still intentionally kill "little dead children". And another true anti-war or anti-violence statement from our resident leftists,"Woot! Getting ready for the March 19 protests! I even have a few extra days off in case I get arrested. I hope I get to do a pre-emptive strike on those Protest Warrior fools if they show up."

And where was all the rightious indignation while the Democratic hero Mr Clinton was bombing "aspirin factories", "babyfood plants" and even a real honest to god "Chinese Embasy" with real Chinese inside, and all the deaths of innocent Serb children killed by the bombings, oh we were too worried on the vast right wing conspiricy while Mr Clinton was getting ......skys.....

At least be consistant folks......protest all wars, acts of aggression, attrocities, not the ones the DNC decides may get them back into power again.

And maybe, just maybe if these protestors actually did some true investigating instead of hoping on the popular bandwagon, many of these DNC talking points may be questioned, but by their agenda, they prefere not to for the true point of the exercise is as usual an attack on President Bush, and his administration....no true Democratic ideas to spout other than Bush is wrong.

Ask the Danes, Belgians, Norwegians, French how they were told Herr Hitler was no threat and their will be "Peace in our Time", and until the end there were French protestors to a "criminal" war, right up until the French Surrender in May 1940.

Not revisionist history, just history in its cycle of repeating itself again....65 years later....Radical Islam and its individual and or nation state supporters are no threat to the west..........








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goodsmitty wrote: goodsmitty wrote: Badsmitty wrote: Wow Dune and goodsmitty.  This is just the most heartwarming thing watching you two bond.  It reminds me of George Bush and Jeff Gannon embracing.  I think that from now on I'll have Barbara Steisand's song Memories playing in the background when I read your posts.  Let's see, you and I have like, one ally on this forum, so don't insult him please. And I will shoulder your insult because it includes a negative reference to our president. The crosses I bear.

You know, you guys are right and I'm way wrong.  The song is actually "The way we were."  Sorry about that.

Thor wrote: Why Military Force Is Sometimes Needed. Here's what you can do when you happen upon one of those stupid, naive, idiots that just can't seem to understand why force is sometimes needed: 1) Find the person involved in "no retaliation" type discussion. 2) Engage him in brief conversation, then ask if military force is appropriate. 3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?" 4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence." 5) When he's in mid-sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can. 6) When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence." 7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence. 8) Punch him in the face again, harder this time

If you see me at a peace rally, by all means see if that works. 

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