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Nickodemus
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I think Rome collapsed because they didn't have the communication technology to manage their whole massive territory. Also, they started to use lead piping and that makes you crazy. Why reference ancient history? I guess why not. |
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Badsmitty
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Rome became great because of its middle class. Middle class landowners were citizen soldiers who had a stake in protecting the empire. Rome collapsed when the wealthy took the land from the citizen soldiers and turned them into peasants. Save the immorality lecture for the fundie wacko's who don't read history books. Also, the Greek army got whipped in Iraq. (Retreat of the 10,000) No democratic nation that ever pre-emptively attacked a soveriegn nation has ever won. History...sheesh Edited by Badsmitty |
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Panda Man
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i dont get your title...
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Nickodemus
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where'd that text come from by my avatar? Ehhhm yes minor indeed, for thoughts and opinions.
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.Ryan
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I'm with Hway. Illegal aliens are one of the worst things going for
this country. Right along with big business shafting the working man
every which way. However, diversity is not a bad thing. If done
properly it can lead to a rich and wonderful culture. Look at us so
far, this is because of immigration and diversity. I'm all for social
cohesion but I think alot of people don't just want to stop the salad
bowl but they want to put a lid on the melting pot and that just
wouldn't be smart. That article used all of those other countries as
examples but, if you think about it, their problems weren't diversity
in their cultures it was the lack of tolerance in them, on both sides.
Immigrants need to learn to be American just as we need to learn to let
them. But, that said, I wholeheartedly agree with the article about our
culture of victimism. Everyone wants to blame someone else for thier
problems and THAT is what is destroying this country, family by family.
Let's face it, any way you want to look at it this country is going to hell. Our only hope is that somehow we can get someone in office that isn't worth hundreds of millions of dollars and isn't stuck on outside allegences but is in there to help us, the people. I think we should make anyone making over 80k inelligible for office. Get normal people with common sense in there and get stuff fixed. |
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Panda Man
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Everything you said was what we need to do... Not **edited**, and just go with the flow... |
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Tae Kwon Do
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Hrmmm. I work at McDonalds, with a bunch of Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Guatamalan (sp) people. A few of them dont speak English. What did I do? Did I complain and throw a fit and get all patriotic and command they learn 'Merican to talk to me? Nope. I learned enough Spanish to communicate with them, and am actually getting them to teach me Spanish. We are a country of diversity that from its beginnings has spoken many languages. Just becuase you all are too lazy to learn another language dosent mean they should be forced to. Speaking of this, between their jobs, when do you propose they learn English? Do you support funding for public English classes for working aldults? How do you want them to learn English? Most of them learn "working English" in due time anyway. Oh, and about being lazy...Yeah, I dont want to hear any talk about anybody "Stealing Jobs". 1) They are not stealing jobs, people are giving them jobs 2)Why dont you try working as well as they do for the pay that they get and the hours they spend at their jobs and see if you want to or not. Living in Florida has forced me to become intolerant of ignorance twords immigration neo-cons. Edited by Tae Kwon Do |
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Panda Man
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Hades is right... What "American" wants to work on a farm for $5.00 an hour?
our Nation Was Built of Immigration... can you even have a slight immagination on what would of happend if we didn't import slaves, and then when slavery was abbolished(sp) we depended on Cheap labor from immagrents from China, Ireland, etc... This nation wouldn't even be a nation if it wasn't for immagrants hell Americans themselves are immigrants.... I belive in tight boarder control, but there is a fine line between Open and closed boarders... I think America should change its name though... "L.o.H" Land of the Hypocrits, and the new slogan... "We never practice what we preech". Edited by Panda Man |
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Nickodemus
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I am sure if a lot of them had an oppertunity to learn english they would. I have had some Cubans in Miami pretend to not speak English to me but that is rare now.
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holysmartone
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Why should they come to our country to live, and expect us to learn their language?
I know if I moved to Mexico (and I'm only using Mexicans as an example because I live in Michigan, and Spanish/Mexican has become the dominant language here it seems) I would learn their own language. I wouldnt expect them to learn english. Thus, I expect them to learn english if they come here. |
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Nickodemus
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I thought my post was obviously sarcastic and in reference to the "too liberal for my taste" post directly above it. Sorry if I dissapointed anyone. |
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Hades
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I dont have time to comment now but if you dont live in California how does this really even affect you? I dont see harm in illegals entering California. They are great for our economy.
I will get back to this later. Back to work for me. Edit: I havent had the time to read the whole first post of the thread, Yet. Edited by Hades |
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hwayhzrd
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I have to say, I am disappointed ... I expected better from you.
The discussion isn't going the way you want, so now you want to allude to snobbery and racism? Really ... that's not the way to change hearts and minds. Oh, well, it was bound to happen sooner or later in this thread. I never lived in a ghetto, I'm white, and I never entered a country illegally, so I could not POSSIBLY understand ... what was I thinking?? |
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Ejp414
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Okay, I agree with Dune, Clark, and Hway. I do not agree with Bugg, and
I do not think that I agree with SeaWolf, but I'm not sure.
What do you propose then, SeaWolf? Are you in favor of locking the borders outright? Do you oppose the idea of pluralism? Do you agree with the e-mail's speaker that there are intrinsic differences between races that cause, for example, Hispanics to suffer from higher drop-out rates? I would try and figure out your answers from your posts, but so far all you've done is say, "We're too liberal," and "Use the edit button." Oh, and you pasted some chain mail, too. |
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goodsmitty
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Your president, in order to win the election: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-10-ridge-ale rts_x.htm?csp=34 badsmitty had a whole thread on it. I'm a big proponent of the current administration's five step plan to destroy our country: 1. Encourage companies to send our jobs overseas. 2. Inflame and insult the world's largest religion, known for radicalism. 3. Torque-off nuclear powers by calling them the "axis of evil." 4. Turn a $trillions budget surplus in the largest deficit ever. 5. Take away the rights of anyone who doesn't walk lock-step with the program and throw them in prison. What would have happened if the indians had closed the borders 500 years ago? We'd all be back in our respective European countries. Edited by goodsmitty |
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Nickodemus
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Your right, I forgot this is paintball - supposed to be a bunch of wealthy white kids. Where's the representation... must be their logic doesn't pull through.
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sn0wie
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Yeah, I"m with him on this one. LIttle bit to liberal. |
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SeaWolf
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Let's hear it for the "edit button"! |
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Nickodemus
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No offense to you home school kids.
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Nickodemus
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I recently heard an interview with a european family that was trying to get green cards. The snag was that their children need immunizations to get into our schools. The family's religion didn't allow for immunizations. Americans use the same excuse to get exemption status all the time with this same issue. Seperation of church and state. They where told that if they pushed this getting the green card, their application will be put into the denied stack. What do you all think of this? Stay home or go against your beliefs? |
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