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Pariel
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Personally, I think that while it shouldn't be illegal not to know English, we should say "English is our language". Not necessarily everyone has to know it-but it's a good thing to have. No rules saying you have to speak it to live here, just that it's the language we communicate in, so the things that are official documents here come in that language: passports, drivers licenses, etc. They already do, the only difference now is that we're going to say that we've got one language.
I don't really see it changing things tremendously, I just think it would be useful, maybe all these immigrants could communicate with me someday. |
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Clark Kent
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But the question stands: What does "national language" mean? That's just a buzzword. Here are some options, right off the top of my head: 1. All public documents must be available AT LEAST in English. 2. All public documents must be available ONLY in English. 3. Everybody who doesn's speak English gets deported. 4. Schools must teach English. 5. Schools must teach ONLY English.
Some of those are already the case (at least mostly), others are not. Which brings me back to "what does 'national language' mean"? BTW, on a historical note, the US has NEVER been monolingual. There have always been large enclaves where no English has been spoken. There have always been millions of people living in the US who don't speak English. Yet we managed to stumble on by somehow. So what exactly are we talking about doing? Specifics, anyone? |
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Frozen Balls
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Oh come on, other nations have national languages, you don't see them whipping their citizens into submission. They get along just fine. I expected better out of your liberal nazi self. |
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SeaWolf
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Read up on why people left England for America... |
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SeaWolf
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I don't argue my political views on the internet, because then I have to come back and reply every 5 minutes... I just post good conservative articles when they roll around |
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Pariel
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It wouldn't be that they're illegal, but the point is, we're setting a language that everyone should communicate in. Heck, when a German scientist talks to a Japanese scientist, they speak English, why can't our whole country?
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Tae Kwon Do
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So what exactilly would a national language and religion mean? Make all other languages and religions illegal? Isnt part of that why we started America to start with? |
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Kristofer
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FOr the most part I agree. Immigration is a massive problem. If it does not get fixed we will be be doomed. Also. Welfare is becoming a problem. I think it is an amazing program that is needed. But some people just dont work and milk the system because its easier. Thats the problem with that. Eventually that will become more widespread. homosexuality is not the issue. I cant see how that would lead to a nations demise. Especially the Rome arguement. The Huns, Carthage, and many others waged war against them and they eventually collapsed. Rome also let the nations they conquered fight in their armies who werent loyal to Rome. That doesnt help a nation either. People need to realize that diversity is great. but unity is key. our Nation NEEDS a set language. THERE IS NO national Language last time I checked. unless I am completely ignorant. English is the dominate language and should be the national language. We DONT need a national religion. but it wouldnt hurt. Until there is more unity like there was after 9/11/01 America wont last forever. There is more individualism than teamwork. More ME than US. All we need is unity and we will be ok. You can conquer an individual. an individual can fall. but a team is impossible to defeat. |
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Ejp414
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Can you respond to my earlier post if you happen to get a chance? |
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SeaWolf
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You're friends with Jake Johannsen? |
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Clark Kent
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EJP wins.
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Ejp414
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Okay, I checked. |
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Bugg
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Well, HWAY did first write "We should lock the borders" Go back and check
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Ejp414
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Your idea of a "slight variation" is the difference between locking the borders or not. . . . |
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Dune
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That would be up to the students though. It would be very useful to learn a second language as strong as our first.
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Bugg
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Friend of mine said "We should make the Rio Grande pure gasoline, and have it turn on and off at will. When someone goes to the border, keep it on for a while, than just turn it off, they will start to cross and you turn it on again" And Dune, yes spanish is applicable, and so is japanes,e but believe me, the way the world is going now, so is Russian |
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Cedric
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That was one of the most stupid things I have heard in awhile. |
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Dune
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Russian is not more applicable than Spanish. Actually the two other languages that should be learned are Spanish and quite possibly Japanese (for anyone entering the business field). |
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Bugg
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Dune, it was started in elementry for me.
Starting in 4th grade, spanish until 7th grade, than 2 years of French, than 2 years of German. I'm sorry, but thats a bit much. I would rather learn something applicable, like Russian. |
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Dune
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It's hard to learn it when you're too busy working 60 hour weeks for only a couple of bucks a day. There is a better place to start than forcing them to learn english, such as requiring equal pay for equal work, providing benefits, and to be a little more open minded to those trying to better themselves like your ancestors. Two years of a foreign language in high school is not nearly enough, it needs to be a program started in elementary that a child is able to pick the language and follow through with it until graduating high school. Edited by Dune |
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