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Nickodemus 
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 Posted: 23 May 2005 at 3:56pm |
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I thought my post was obviously sarcastic and in reference to the "too liberal for my taste" post directly above it. Sorry if I dissapointed anyone. |
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Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken!
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holysmartone
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 3:59pm |
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Why should they come to our country to live, and expect us to learn their language?
I know if I moved to Mexico (and I'm only using Mexicans as an example because I live in Michigan, and Spanish/Mexican has become the dominant language here it seems) I would learn their own language. I wouldnt expect them to learn english. Thus, I expect them to learn english if they come here. |
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Nickodemus
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:03pm |
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I am sure if a lot of them had an oppertunity to learn english they would. I have had some Cubans in Miami pretend to not speak English to me but that is rare now.
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Panda Man
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:08pm |
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Hades is right... What "American" wants to work on a farm for $5.00 an hour?
our Nation Was Built of Immigration... can you even have a slight immagination on what would of happend if we didn't import slaves, and then when slavery was abbolished(sp) we depended on Cheap labor from immagrents from China, Ireland, etc... This nation wouldn't even be a nation if it wasn't for immagrants hell Americans themselves are immigrants.... I belive in tight boarder control, but there is a fine line between Open and closed boarders... I think America should change its name though... "L.o.H" Land of the Hypocrits, and the new slogan... "We never practice what we preech". Edited by Panda Man |
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Tae Kwon Do
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:08pm |
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Hrmmm. I work at McDonalds, with a bunch of Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Guatamalan (sp) people. A few of them dont speak English. What did I do? Did I complain and throw a fit and get all patriotic and command they learn 'Merican to talk to me? Nope. I learned enough Spanish to communicate with them, and am actually getting them to teach me Spanish. We are a country of diversity that from its beginnings has spoken many languages. Just becuase you all are too lazy to learn another language dosent mean they should be forced to. Speaking of this, between their jobs, when do you propose they learn English? Do you support funding for public English classes for working aldults? How do you want them to learn English? Most of them learn "working English" in due time anyway. Oh, and about being lazy...Yeah, I dont want to hear any talk about anybody "Stealing Jobs". 1) They are not stealing jobs, people are giving them jobs 2)Why dont you try working as well as they do for the pay that they get and the hours they spend at their jobs and see if you want to or not. Living in Florida has forced me to become intolerant of ignorance twords immigration neo-cons. Edited by Tae Kwon Do |
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Panda Man
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:11pm |
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 Everything you said was what we need to do... Not **edited**, and just go with the flow... |
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.Ryan
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:25pm |
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I'm with Hway. Illegal aliens are one of the worst things going for
this country. Right along with big business shafting the working man
every which way. However, diversity is not a bad thing. If done
properly it can lead to a rich and wonderful culture. Look at us so
far, this is because of immigration and diversity. I'm all for social
cohesion but I think alot of people don't just want to stop the salad
bowl but they want to put a lid on the melting pot and that just
wouldn't be smart. That article used all of those other countries as
examples but, if you think about it, their problems weren't diversity
in their cultures it was the lack of tolerance in them, on both sides.
Immigrants need to learn to be American just as we need to learn to let
them. But, that said, I wholeheartedly agree with the article about our
culture of victimism. Everyone wants to blame someone else for thier
problems and THAT is what is destroying this country, family by family.
Let's face it, any way you want to look at it this country is going to hell. Our only hope is that somehow we can get someone in office that isn't worth hundreds of millions of dollars and isn't stuck on outside allegences but is in there to help us, the people. I think we should make anyone making over 80k inelligible for office. Get normal people with common sense in there and get stuff fixed. |
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Nickodemus
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:35pm |
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 where'd that text come from by my avatar?  Ehhhm yes minor indeed, for thoughts and opinions.
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Panda Man
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 4:38pm |
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i dont get your title...
 
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Badsmitty
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 5:14pm |
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Rome became great because of its middle class. Middle class landowners were citizen soldiers who had a stake in protecting the empire. Rome collapsed when the wealthy took the land from the citizen soldiers and turned them into peasants. Save the immorality lecture for the fundie wacko's who don't read history books. Also, the Greek army got whipped in Iraq. (Retreat of the 10,000) No democratic nation that ever pre-emptively attacked a soveriegn nation has ever won. History...sheesh Edited by Badsmitty |
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Nickodemus
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 5:23pm |
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I think Rome collapsed because they didn't have the communication technology to manage their whole massive territory. Also, they started to use lead piping and that makes you crazy. Why reference ancient history? I guess why not. |
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Panda Man
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 5:31pm |
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lets bring back the Soviet Empire!
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Hades
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 8:47pm |
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So what if some people dont want to wait 15+ years to get their application approved to enter the United States hoping for a better chance at life. As long as they are good people, which most all of them are. Who cares.
I would like to know these jobs that the illegal aliens are taking. If they dont have green cards or American highshcool diplomas their job oppertunies fall to what people are willing to hire them for; mostly under the table work of hard/back breaking labor or really cheap labor. If your complaining because you feel that your less then minimuim wage job is at stake because of an illegal alien, go earn your high school diploma. Another thing that caught my eye, if you go to any other country you will find people that have learned English. They speak thier native tonuge and english. Some think that they are so superior are they are the best and that is the way everything should be. Well I disagree. /me goes and starts at the being of the thread to read it. |
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 9:13pm |
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I think America has enough "trash" in it already. Illegal immigrants are welcome in my book. Better if we just let them all become legal. Edited by rancidpnk13 |
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Hades
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Posted: 23 May 2005 at 9:36pm |
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I finally skimmed through the first post and I have to say is I am grateful for not being on whatever mailing list you have gotten yourself onto. That was the nearly the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted here.
I started typing a very long and winded reply but I gave up. At least the people that heard this speech didnt applaud. Despite what ever the emailer wrote, it was not because the audience was shocked by the info in the speech and how correct the speaker was, but because they too thought it was the dumbest thing they ever heard and couldnt believe their ears. |
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Nickodemus
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Posted: 24 May 2005 at 7:44pm |
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In a different thread I said that "if I got guested for something minor, I would be done with this forum" |
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.Ryan
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Posted: 24 May 2005 at 7:49pm |
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It's ok guys, I think other countries will be the ones worrying about illegal immigration before too long.
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DBibeau855
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Posted: 24 May 2005 at 8:45pm |
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We did. Iraq.. History..sheesh. |
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.Ryan
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Posted: 24 May 2005 at 8:52pm |
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lol, we did? When Iraq is a self supporting, secure, becon of democracy
in the middle of the holy land THEN we have won. Right now we're not
there.
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DBibeau855
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Posted: 24 May 2005 at 8:56pm |
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No. We dont have to stabalize anything to win a war. Look at germany. Look at all the other wars the US has one. When have we ever cared? We beat the hell out of the germany and left it in poverty. We dont have to go through a reconstruction to win a war. We won in Iraq, now we are setting up a government that hopefully, will look out for our interests as well as theirs.
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