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Nickodemus
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Sorry guys, but I am trying to put some useful info in this "sniper" thread. Call them scouts, it's not sniper/scout school that they train at for nothing. That's like saying your a seal but not a UDT. I covered the basics of sight adjustment, now holding for wind: This is guesswork but there are methods. Remember, your projectile is more vulnerable to wind near the end of it's travel. This is because down range the projectile is moving slower, and also the wind has been acting on it longer. Wind is usually never constant - if you are shooting 1000 yards it may push your projectile left for the first 200, then towards you for the next 50, then the wind will curl and go right for the rest of your projectiles travel. Remember, the wind sock by you was reading left, but the last part of travel and most significant distance covered the wind was right. I say it is guesswork because it will shift. So, to accurately correct for wind you need to make a little chart of how many inches your projectile gets shifted at a given range with a given wind speed. For wind direction you only need to memorise these shifts at anolog clock directions 1:00, 2:00, and 3:00. I would put data for 5 knot, 10 knot, 15 knot, 20 knot, 25 knot, and 30 knot winds. Wind coming from 9:00 will have the same effect as wind coming from 3:00, it will just push the projectile in the opposite direction. So if I go to shoot and see that a wind sock down by the target reads a 15 knot wind coming from 7:00. I have to look in my notes or remember what 15 knots shifts the projectile at 1:00, say it moves point of impact 3" left at this distance, then correct the direction for the shift that pushes opposite 1:00 (the 7:00 wind sock). My POI is going to be 3" right. I thought about sharing some advanced skills like accounting for mirage, and trajectory changes when shooting through glass windows, but maybe another day.
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Sentinelz
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I think sniper, sniping, and shotgun should be added to the damn filter and damn too thats a bad word please mods, tippmann, someone, do it... Edited by Sentinelz |
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Darur
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Personally "Longballer" is my favorite . . . |
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I wasn't taking a side I was just showing everyone what the definition was that I found. I think scout is a better word for "sniper". |
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Darur
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Darur
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Run a search buddy, the deffinition has been shot down 100 times before. |
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Darur
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Back up your points, you havent given anyhting to prove me wrong. |
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hahahaha this reminded me i was playing 3 days ago and we only had 3
people and we juat started in different corners and started well i play
pump so i had to be extra sneeky b/c it was me against a custom pro and
a spyder so i snuck all the way around the field being extra carful and
the guy with the spyder had gotten out the custom pro so i poped up and
took one shot and hit him right in the middle of the chest as he was
diving from the sound of my "marker" going off cause its insainly loud
and he was pissed and then the next round the guy was walking near this
creek on a steep hill so he was walking slow and i just steped out and
saw him and took 2 shots fast and one hit his mask and the other in the
leg as he fell it made me laugh so much i couldnt breath
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Nickodemus
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I could teach a drunk chimp to shoot, so long as it could hold still. I will give you some tips for shooting with the normal iron sights: 1.) Move the front sight opposite to how you want the impact to move. (If the impact is to high, then the front sight is to low.) 2.) Move the rear site in the direction of desired impact. To determine how much change is needed in inches, multiply in inches the amount of correction needed at the target by the sight radius (the distance between the rear and fron sight in inches). Divide this by the inch distance to the target (100 yards = 3,600 inches.) For example - If your rifle is shooting 10" high at 100 yards, and has a 20" sight radius, the math would be: (10" X 20")/3600" = 0.056" You would bring the front sight up or the rear sight down 0.056" to hit your target.
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HITMAN 4 HIRE
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Darur, you're my hero. tears of joy |
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ya i guess you got a point!!! i being in the military (well i just got back du to an injury to a knee ) i have only one thing to say Darure SHUT UP if you dont know what your talking about sorry to be (edited)about that but the kid hase a good point about does skills!! And yes sniper is not a good name for that skill!!! alltought its the closest thin to it it wont work!! Edited by Reb Cpl |
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Nickodemus
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Good rule of thumb for estimation. M-minute O-of A-angle Close, but 1 MOA @ 100 yards is 1.0472 inches. The difference gets bigger at further distance. MOA (in) = [tan(1/60) X distance to target yards] X 36 Practial problem: Some newbie zeroed my scope at 50 yards. My scope has 1/4 MOA adjustments. I shoot a group at 500 yards and decide I want to bring my point of impact up 5 inches. How do I adjust my scope? A= 4 clicks up. I decide to play at 25 yards with my rifle. My group lands 4 inches up and 3 inches left. How do I zero it for 25 yards? A= 64 clicks up, 48 clicks right.
I still say people should just call them scout players. Much more applicable. Edited by Nickodemus |
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Captain Bozo
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A MOA is an inch per hundred yards nickodemus. Sniping is a word that has a couple of meanings, like when hunters would shoot a bird called a snipe, which is a small and fast flying bird, they where called snipers, basicaly meaning a good shooter. In world war one they hardly had what you could call a sniper, but as guns and scopes and radios and camo got better the art evolved into what they are today: a inteligence gatherer, an observer, a demoralizer and a high precision enemy removal system. In paintball the weapons are not near so advanced as a modern rifle, I mean I can put three bullets in a half inch group at a hundred yards with my .243 rifle any day, which is half a moa. You can not get near that good with a paintball gun at 30 yrds. My point is you can have a sniper in paintball, in a highly organized team, but most of the time you just have a one man ambush. Edited by Captain Bozo |
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^lol Edited by stratoaxe |
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Nickodemus
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Get a remote contol airplane and put one of those cool radio cameras in it. Attach a cargo load of paintballs, set up like grapeshot. Then call it, the "Sniper"! Imagine the guys on the ground, "ohh no, hears comes that little..." |
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stratoaxe
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New discussion-cruise missiles in paintball. J/K lol.
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Nickodemus
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In some cases sniper/scout harrass and demoralize your enemy. They buy you time. A cruise missle destroys your prime target now.
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stratoaxe
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Something else I forgot to mention about snipers-Often a sniper in the traditional sense is assigned a single target. Snipers are more of a support, or backup for a team; not the "lone wolf" Rambo guys you see on TV. Snipers take out targets that the rest of a group couldn't normally take out.
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stratoaxe
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In response to Darur- No buddy, thats woodsballer tactics They have woodsball in the military? I wasn't talking about paintball, I was talking about the military. And those are basic military skills, non-exclusive to snipers. Buddy, you just told me that was a "military principle", not a sniper thing. It is a military principle. It's not exclusive to snipers. Make up your mind buddy. You told me first staying hidden is a military thing not a sniper thing, then you told me its vital to being a sniper, not you are saying its not sniping. You didn't show any contradiction in what I just said. Staying hidden is vital to being sniper, but doesn't make you a sniper. As I stated above, being a sniper is the ability to put basic military principles together and add in being an extremely good shot with an accurate weapon. If you can't stay hidden while doing this, you won't las very long in the real world. Thats all fine and dandy but if you search the topic we've shown it doesnt work. And your point is-? I think that's where I was headed with that long post. I'll try to put my opinon in less lengthy words-I don't think sniping works for the average player. That's why I wanted alternate opinons-to either back up or dismiss my opinon. Also, I put this in the New Ideas forum because I wanted to hear new ideas on how to make sniping work. That was where I was going, and I didn't know which category it would fall under, so I posted it in this one. And I believe I stated quite a few times that I'm not an expert, and that's why I'm asking other opinons. If I was trying to act like one, I wouldn't have asked. LordJovian-Not sure what you meant by "go cry somewhere else". I don't care if someone puts on a Medal of Honor and goes around saying they're a sniper. That doesn't bother me. I think people who act like being a paintball player makes you a real soldier are not only ignorant, but probably have lived in a cave for a large portion of their life. That's not what this post is about. It's not ranting about how it irritates me that people refer to themselves as snipers, it's about whether other people think sniping is possible practically in sniping. Edited by stratoaxe |
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