Sniping in Paintball

HITMAN 4 HIRE wrote: theres sniping in paintball get over it.

Prove it

alot of you are missing the point.sniping is NOT staying in one spot picking off targets that only you can see. the only reason that i got my 98 flatline is because my imagine couldnt hit a brick wall. so for all of you out there who are confused about the whole point of sniping it is simply this: 1. really accurate gun
                               2.avoiding other players paintballs
                               and 3. moving around to get a better vantage point of your opponent

that sums it up

Darur wrote: Sniperdaddy wrote: alot of you are missing the point.sniping is NOT staying in one spot picking off targets that only you can see. the only reason that i got my 98 flatline is because my imagine couldnt hit a brick wall. so for all of you out there who are confused about the whole point of sniping it is simply this: 1. really accurate gun Name one please                     &n bs p;          2.avoiding other players paintballs Gosh!  You think?!                     &n bs p;          and 3. moving around to get a better vantage point of your opponent So, do the rest of the woodsballers all shoot guns with curvey barrels, eyes closed while jumping in front of others shooting at them and staying in one spot? that sums it up

Yeah, that is about the worst arguement I have ever seen trying to prove their existence.

Long Tr'ang wrote: Nickodemus wrote: I mean range estimation by using a mil scope or the width of your front site. How I would employ your scouts in woodsball: [waiting in ambush] newbie: "When are they going to come over here" Nick: "Don't worry, I sent two scouts that way to find them and bait them back" ... newbie: "I hear markers shooting over there, that's behind our ambush" Nick "Yeah, I guess they found them - Listen to all that, they are outnumbered, they are buying us time - forget this ambush we all need to move this way, now!"     yes but todo that u need to know the size of somehting at or neer that range to do it succesfully

Correct. You can use the estimated height of a person downrange very well. Also, there are other tricks, a 20" sillouhette will dissapear behind the width of your front site on a M1 (unless you have match sights) at exactly 300 yards. So if your target's width is visable when you aim at it, it's less then 300 yards away, and if it is more narrow then your front sight, then that is a +300 yard shot. Laser range finders are awesome until they break or the batteries die. If you see a target off in the distance and you do not know the range, but have five Rifleman, get each to adjust their sights for the estimated range, then put a minor change on each of them so that when they open up at least one will hit. remember it is better to hit low then high. If your projectile hits air, you never see it. But if it kicks up a little dust when it hits ground, you can adjust your sights off that. "Whoever gets there with the mostest, fastest, wins."

Don't the people in paintball who think thier snipers do that^ anyway?

I try to give them more credit then that, but with some of these forumers I may get suprised.

Range estimation with MOA and mil-dot recticle.

Most weapons either scoped or iron sighted are graduated in the MOAs. I explained a MOA earlier in this thread... now we will take it further for range estimation. Really easy if you have a scope with stadia lines of 1MOA:

[(size of object in inches) X 100]/size of object in MOAs = range in yards

Now if you don't have that fancy scope you can use your front sight also. First calculate the MOA width of your front sight:

21600/[(sight radius in inches X 2pie)/front sight width in inches)] = MOA

Now to use it for estimating range. Say you calculated your front sight to be 8MOA with the second equation I gave you. How far away is your target? You want to shoot at a target with a 20 inch torso and your sight blanks it out perfectly. Use the first equation I gave you.

[(20" torso) X 100]/8MOA = 250 yards

Now for the scopes with mil-dots! Mils (3.6" @ 100 yards, or 36" @ 1000 yards). 1mil = 3.438MOA

Remember when measuring the length of a target in mils to go from the center of the dot or hash mark to the center of the next one, not the edges. They are 1/4mil wide and 3/4 mil apart. Heres your equation:

[(size of object in yards) X 1000]/size of object in mils = range in yards

If a 6' man (2 yards) is 4 mils in your scope then he is exactly 500yds away. 2 X 1000/4 = 500

MOAs are 3.438x more precise then mils, but if your shooting a cannon at a building or vehichle use mils.

 

 

Darur wrote: stratoaxe wrote: I'm new to the forum, so I thought I'd open up a really nasty can of worms. Not a wise move I've read alot on this board that has to do with sniping. I wanted to give some idiot newbie input. I've been playing paintball for a couple of years, but I've always studied militaria. That's why I play. Sniping, despite common misconceptions, isn't one shot one kill, nor is it hiding in the woods. Those are basic military principles. No buddy, thats woodsballer tactics Sniping is a skill. I know a couple of ex-snipers. If they are real military snipers they will tell you sniping in Paintball is bull poo Snipers are trained to do many things at once-but most of the time they hide-usually directed at a single target. I'm afraid too many newbies, including me when I first grabbed a gun, start paintball fresh off the online video games like Delta Force, and plan on using those tactics in paintball. I got a serious lesson in getting beat the first time I played trying to snipe fellow player. What I learned is that to create the speed and distance in a paintball to snipe, it would almost have to be lethal. Therefore to be a "sniper" in paintball-assuming the definition of a sniper is not what does, but the skill in which he does it Whats the skill? -you would have to be an expert with your gun. The key to being a sniper is to stay hidden. Buddy, you just told me that was a "military principle", not a sniper thing. They teach you in the military to stay hidden at all costs. How many people in reality can actually take another player out without his locaion being compromised? Depends on the player being shot.  Its not that hard you will find. Sitting in a trench waiting for another player is an ambush. Staying hidden isn't sniping, Make up your mind buddy.  You told me first staying hidden is a military thing not a sniper thing, then you told me its vital to being a sniper, not you are saying its not sniping. it's called woodsball. Hence my earilier point . . . What would sniping be in paintball, then? In my opinion, sniping is going after one target, and taking that target out without being seen or heard from. Thats all fine and dandy but if you search the topic we've shown it doesnt work. As I said, I'm not an expert, I'm simply giving my humble imput on this discussion. I've hashed this out with my friends over and over, and from my little experience I've learned the hard way that sniping isn't only hard, in the average game it's near impossible. More like is impossible Yeah, that was a really long-winded rant, but I'd like to hear more from other players who've been out there alot longer than me as to whether sniping is a valid position in paintball, and different ideas on how to pull it off. I think there was another thread on this elsewhere, so sorry if I'm rehashing old arguments. And Wrong forum buddy

AAAAAAMEN

alright...  Yeah, you are in the wrong forum topic area thingy for your subject, but hey, what the heck.  You wanted to know if a sniper is a valid position in paintball?  Two words.  Heck yeah!  When I play woodsball...   wait a minute, heres my setup first:

Tippmann 98 Custom (black)
-Flatline with shroud  -Special Ops Air Through SAW Stock -Expansion Chamber -Dead On Double Trigger  -Response Trigger System  -A scope -a PMI remote coil -bi-pod system -and best of all, a halo hopper when I ramp it up to 17 bps (where allowed).

*cough, here we go again.  When I play woodsball, I play one of two things.  A sniper (covers the captain, or the leader).  Or, I play Saw gunner (the big dude who likes to shoot everything that gets in his way).  Your right, sniping isn't all hiding, but it is a valuable position to play in order to cover your teammates and take out other captains in scenario games.  Nice meeting ya!

YEAH!!!1!!!one!!!shift+1!!! I get to use this again!!!1!!!one!!!shift+1!!!

Edited by Sentinelz

I wonder Darur since you're obviously much smarter than me as I click that damn link everytime I see it... would the ball fly straight if it had chambers and X amount of paint in the chambers? I went off to do math a few days ago posted a few times and then forgot and then remembered and then later remembered I can't do math or algebra I can barely handle geometry...