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 Posted: 07 June 2005 at 5:10pm |
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It's actually a shame people start playing paintball with the concept in mind that you just run and shoot everything in sight. And the other half are 12 year-olds who start out thinking they're gonna be certified military snipers because of some game they played on the PC. Trust me, I've been there. I had the sniper stars once too, but after about four games I realized that was alot different than playing Delta Force on the net.
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Posted: 07 June 2005 at 6:04pm |
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Are you certain that I DONT have military expierence there chief?
Regardless of wether or not I have expierence, I think its funny that someone who has, or says they have expierence hold themselves in such lofty regard.
Explain to me why, rather than rebutt my argument you swoop into 12 year old mode and try to insult me.
Because while my military information might not be first hand, it is extensive. I'm beyond being dilusioned by a few movies or scenario games. Apparently, you may not be.
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I wasn't insulting you-I agreed with you. You said that people weren't snipers just because they played it in paintball. I said it's funny how newbs always go around bragging they're experienced in military tactics when they've done nothing but play paintball. Not sure how that's 12 year old mode, but for future reference, unlike alot of other Internet forumers, I don't resort to mindless name-calling to settle differences. Try to keep that in mind before you act to fast on my posts. BTW. I feel the same way you do about snipers-I don't know where people get off thinking I'm pro-sniper. I just posted this to get opinions-I never really took a side.
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Posted: 07 June 2005 at 6:14pm |
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Sorry dude, I misunderstood you...
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No need to be sorry-I should have made myself more clear. I was a mod over a forum for like three years-I would have reacted the same way if I'd have read the post. Alot of people misunderstand me, (see the _TT_ thread lol) but I actually don't argue on the Internet. I might give a smart response, but I try to stay in the rules. The last thing I want to do is get on the mods' bad side, lol...
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 12:29am |
Darur wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
I'm new to the forum, so I thought I'd open up a really nasty can of worms.
Not a wise move
I've read alot on this board that has to do with sniping. I wanted to give some idiot newbie input. I've been playing paintball for a couple of years, but I've always studied militaria. That's why I play. Sniping, despite common misconceptions, isn't one shot one kill, nor is it hiding in the woods. Those are basic military principles.
No buddy, thats woodsballer tactics
Sniping is a skill. I know a couple of ex-snipers.
If they are real military snipers they will tell you sniping in Paintball is bull poo
Snipers are trained to do many things at once-but most of the time they hide-usually directed at a single target. I'm afraid too many newbies, including me when I first grabbed a gun, start paintball fresh off the online video games like Delta Force, and plan on using those tactics in paintball. I got a serious lesson in getting beat the first time I played trying to snipe fellow player. What I learned is that to create the speed and distance in a paintball to snipe, it would almost have to be lethal. Therefore to be a "sniper" in paintball-assuming the definition of a sniper is not what does, but the skill in which he does it
Whats the skill?
-you would have to be an expert with your gun. The key to being a sniper is to stay hidden.
Buddy, you just told me that was a "military principle", not a sniper thing.
They teach you in the military to stay hidden at all costs. How many people in reality can actually take another player out without his locaion being compromised?
Depends on the player being shot. Its not that hard you will find.
Sitting in a trench waiting for another player is an ambush. Staying hidden isn't sniping,
Make up your mind buddy. You told me first staying hidden is a military thing not a sniper thing, then you told me its vital to being a sniper, not you are saying its not sniping.
it's called woodsball.
Hence my earilier point . . .
What would sniping be in paintball, then? In my opinion, sniping is going after one target, and taking that target out without being seen or heard from.
Thats all fine and dandy but if you search the topic we've shown it doesnt work.
As I said, I'm not an expert, I'm simply giving my humble imput on this discussion. I've hashed this out with my friends over and over, and from my little experience I've learned the hard way that sniping isn't only hard, in the average game it's near impossible.
More like is impossible
Yeah, that was a really long-winded rant, but I'd like to hear more from other players who've been out there alot longer than me as to whether sniping is a valid position in paintball, and different ideas on how to pull it off. I think there was another thread on this elsewhere, so sorry if I'm rehashing old arguments.
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Every dang thing "darur" sain was absolutely stupid. He just cant face the fact that he (or she) is not smarter than everyone on this forum. Pick on someone else, buddy!
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 1:33am |
sentinal343 wrote:
Darur wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
I'm new to the forum, so I thought I'd open up a really nasty can of worms.
Not a wise move
I've read alot on this board that has to do with sniping. I wanted
to give some idiot newbie input. I've been playing paintball for a
couple of years, but I've always studied militaria. That's why I play.
Sniping, despite common misconceptions, isn't one shot one kill, nor is
it hiding in the woods. Those are basic military principles.
No buddy, thats woodsballer tactics
Sniping is a skill. I know a couple of ex-snipers.
If they are real military snipers they will tell you sniping in Paintball is bull poo
Snipers are trained to do many things at once-but most of the time
they hide-usually directed at a single target. I'm afraid too many
newbies, including me when I first grabbed a gun, start paintball
fresh off the online video games like Delta Force, and plan on using
those tactics in paintball. I got a serious lesson in getting beat the
first time I played trying to snipe fellow player. What I learned is
that to create the speed and distance in a paintball to snipe, it would
almost have to be lethal. Therefore to be a "sniper" in
paintball-assuming the definition of a sniper is not what does, but the
skill in which he does it
Whats the skill?
-you would have to be an expert with your gun. The key to being a sniper is to stay hidden.
Buddy, you just told me that was a "military principle", not a sniper thing.
They teach you in the military to stay hidden at all costs. How many
people in reality can actually take another player out without his
locaion being compromised?
Depends on the player being shot. Its not that hard you will find.
Sitting in a trench waiting for another player is an ambush. Staying hidden isn't sniping,
Make up your mind buddy.
You told me first staying hidden is a military thing not a sniper
thing, then you told me its vital to being a sniper, not you are saying
its not sniping.
it's called woodsball.
Hence my earilier point . . .
What would sniping be in paintball, then? In my opinion, sniping is
going after one target, and taking that target out without being seen
or heard from.
Thats all fine and dandy but if you search the topic we've shown it doesnt work.
As I said, I'm not an expert, I'm simply giving my humble imput on
this discussion. I've hashed this out with my friends over and over,
and from my little experience I've learned the hard way that sniping
isn't only hard, in the average game it's near impossible.
More like is impossible
Yeah, that was a really long-winded rant, but I'd like to hear more
from other players who've been out there alot longer than me as to
whether sniping is a valid position in paintball, and different ideas
on how to pull it off. I think there was another thread on this
elsewhere, so sorry if I'm rehashing old arguments.
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Every dang thing "darur" sain was absolutely stupid. He just cant
face the fact that he (or she) is not smarter than everyone on this
forum. Pick on someone else, buddy! |
Prove me wrong please, and I dont think I said anywhere I was "smarter than everyone on this forum".
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 1:55pm |
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snipers exist
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 2:19pm |
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Darur lives in hawaii, hes gotta be the smartest person on the forums.
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 4:50pm |
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to Darur: hokay so what im getting from all of this is that the differneces in mil sniping, and paintball sniping are only the method of propulsion and the type of ammunnition. Now lets point out the similarities;
1-a gun/marker 2-concealed position 3-camoflauge worn by "sniper" theres probably more but im too lazy. We dont need to base what sniping is on how a dictionary defines it. Sniping is shooting from a consealed position at like 3 or less targets or else the survivors own you. I do agree however that sniping is nearly impossible unless you have a group of people to protect you when hits the fan. My verdict- Sniping possible-yes if there is fire support, no if you're a lone wolf attempting to take out miltiple targets. Discuss
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 5:25pm |
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snping isnt when people think they can shoot farther than anyone else, its when they can pick off a player at a reasonably medium/long distance that the trajectory of a paintball will allow them to. i think its rediculos when people say snipers dont exist. there so ignorant and it makes them sound like newbies
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 6:03pm |
maddog87 wrote:
snping isnt when people think they can shoot farther than anyone else, its when they can pick off a player at a reasonably medium/long distance that the trajectory of a paintball will allow them to. i think its rediculos when people say snipers dont exist. there so ignorant and it makes them sound like newbies |
Wow. You are a hard core noob.
Yes! That's right! Look at my name! Laugh at it! God, what was I thinking when I made this name...
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 6:22pm |
oh man u are sooooooooo cooooooooolll............................................... ............................................................ .................................................
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 8:20pm |
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oh man u are sooooooooo cooooooooolll............................................... ............................................................ .................................................
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That wasn't my point, you moron.
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 8:29pm |
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oh man u are sooooooooo cooooooooolll............................................... ............................................................ .................................................
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youre such a badass....not
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 9:25pm |
Predatorr wrote:
You Wont See Me wrote:
Darur lives in hawaii, hes gotta be the smartest person on the forums. |
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to Darur: hokay so what im getting from all of this is that the
differneces in mil sniping, and paintball sniping are only the method
of propulsion and the type of ammunnition
Yeah, cause you know, the only difference between Earth and Pluto is Pluto is colder . . .
. Now lets point out the similarities;
1-a gun/marker
So long as we conveniently forget that Paintball guns are as accurate as a drunk man usuing the toliet
2-concealed position
Right, but you see, real
snipers move and move at such distences that their camoflauge works,
they arent little kids sitting in a bush with a ghillie 5 feet from
their opponent who is about to light them up.
3-camoflauge worn by "sniper"
A military sniper knows how to
use camoflauge, a paintball "sniper" would beleive a hot pink bathrobe
with flashing lights would make him "invisible" if the company selling
it told him. Furthermore ghillie suits and camoflauge all have a
certain range they work best at. Woodland camo for example works
best at a long distence. Practically all camo works best at long
distences. Paintball guns (even ones with faltlines) have a very
short effective range (50 - 100 ft if you are lucky, and its still
quite inacurate). Camo at such short distences doesnt work as
well as it does at long distences. Furthermore a military sniper
is trained not to fidget, not to make sudden moves and how to move with
minimal detection, a paintball "sniper" is not.
theres probably more but im too lazy. We dont n0eed to base what sniping is on how a dictionary defines it.
Well, if you take everything
that you say is a "sniper" you get a woodsballer. For cripes sake
just call yourselves woodsballers.
Sniping is shooting from a consealed position at like 3 or less targets or else the survivors own you.
Yeah, cause woodsballers focus on a million targets and run around screaming in a kilt.
I do agree however that sniping is nearly impossible unless you have a group of people to protect you when hits the fan.
Hmm, wouldnt that make you a woodsballer with a team . . .?
My verdict- Sniping possible-yes if there is fire support, no if
you're a lone wolf attempting to take out miltiple targets.
Discuss
What good does "fire support"
do if you cant shoot your target from 50 feet away? All your guns
shoot the same distence, why not take your "fire support" and have
everyone shoot?
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 9:27pm |
maddog87 wrote:
snping isnt when people think they can shoot farther
than anyone else, its when they can pick off a player at a reasonably
medium/long distance that the trajectory of a paintball will allow them
to. i think its rediculos when people say snipers dont exist.
there so ignorant and it makes them sound like newbies |
Goly gee! Why doesnt EVERYONE do that then?!
Oh wait, they do, they are called WOODSBALLERS.
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 10:32pm |
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Can we all just agree that the word sniper is up to interpretation?
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 10:42pm |
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 11:01pm |
Darur wrote:
maddog87 wrote:
snping isnt when people think they can shoot farther than anyone else, its when they can pick off a player at a reasonably medium/long distance that the trajectory of a paintball will allow them to. i think its rediculos when people say snipers dont exist. there so ignorant and it makes them sound like newbies |
Goly gee! Why doesnt EVERYONE do that then?!
Oh wait, they do, they are called WOODSBALLERS.
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 11:38pm |
Darur wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
I'm new to the forum, so I thought I'd open up a really nasty can of worms.
Not a wise move
I've read alot on this board that has to do with sniping. I wanted
to give some idiot newbie input. I've been playing paintball for a
couple of years, but I've always studied militaria. That's why I play.
Sniping, despite common misconceptions, isn't one shot one kill, nor is
it hiding in the woods. Those are basic military principles.
No buddy, thats woodsballer tactics
Sniping is a skill. I know a couple of ex-snipers.
If they are real military snipers they will tell you sniping in Paintball is bull poo
Snipers are trained to do many things at once-but most of the time
they hide-usually directed at a single target. I'm afraid too many
newbies, including me when I first grabbed a gun, start paintball
fresh off the online video games like Delta Force, and plan on using
those tactics in paintball. I got a serious lesson in getting beat the
first time I played trying to snipe fellow player. What I learned is
that to create the speed and distance in a paintball to snipe, it would
almost have to be lethal. Therefore to be a "sniper" in
paintball-assuming the definition of a sniper is not what does, but the
skill in which he does it
Whats the skill?
-you would have to be an expert with your gun. The key to being a sniper is to stay hidden.
Buddy, you just told me that was a "military principle", not a sniper thing.
They teach you in the military to stay hidden at all costs. How many
people in reality can actually take another player out without his
locaion being compromised?
Depends on the player being shot. Its not that hard you will find.
Sitting in a trench waiting for another player is an ambush. Staying hidden isn't sniping,
Make up your mind buddy.
You told me first staying hidden is a military thing not a sniper
thing, then you told me its vital to being a sniper, not you are saying
its not sniping.
it's called woodsball.
Hence my earilier point . . .
What would sniping be in paintball, then? In my opinion, sniping is
going after one target, and taking that target out without being seen
or heard from.
Thats all fine and dandy but if you search the topic we've shown it doesnt work.
As I said, I'm not an expert, I'm simply giving my humble imput on
this discussion. I've hashed this out with my friends over and over,
and from my little experience I've learned the hard way that sniping
isn't only hard, in the average game it's near impossible.
More like is impossible
Yeah, that was a really long-winded rant, but I'd like to hear more
from other players who've been out there alot longer than me as to
whether sniping is a valid position in paintball, and different ideas
on how to pull it off. I think there was another thread on this
elsewhere, so sorry if I'm rehashing old arguments. |
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Posted: 10 June 2005 at 11:47pm |
Darur wrote:
maddog87 wrote:
snping isnt when people think they can shoot farther than anyone else, its when they can pick off a player at a reasonably medium/long distance that the trajectory of a paintball will allow them to. i think its rediculos when people say snipers dont exist. there so ignorant and it makes them sound like newbies |
Goly gee! Why doesnt EVERYONE do that then?!
Oh wait, they do, they are called WOODSBALLERS.
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