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    Posted: 25 May 2005 at 6:32pm
To whom this may concern,

I just bought the tippman 98 flatline barrel and 2, 500 paintballs of werks.  To make it short I measured the calibor of the balls and it was .71 and the balls always breaks in my barrel.  Was it a bad case or what.  Do you have an suggestions for me.  Right now I am out 70 Bucks.

Thanks,

And how should I clean the barrel.
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ya where exactly did you get these .71 balls? i dont think they even make .71 balls. how long have you left these balls sitting around? and why did you pay 70 bucks for 500 or 1000 balls? what did you used to messure them? do you have something that is precise enough to messure 100ths of an inch? sorry if i make myself seem harsh but are you sure this isnt user error?   also tippmann does not read this but if you provide us with more info we may be able to help you out a little more. My overall suggestion would be to open the balls before you buy em. most stores dont care because as long as thier good and you buy em afterward they still make thier money.

when you break a ball you should clean the barrel out immidiately or else you will keep brekcking balls.

Now don't go and follow the following advice just yet becuase im not sure if its right but i believe you clean flatline with soap and water. but i repeat IM NOT SURE WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO CONFIRM THIS SO YOU DONT RUIN YOUR BARREL


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First off, the calipers you're using may not be accurate enough for mesuring calibers.  You need to be able to measure up to .001 inches.  It may also be that you did indeed get a bad batch of paint, even the best manufacturers will have bad or defective paint for some reason or another, it happens.  For your flatline, it is a good idea to use a better quality small bore paint like RPS Marbalizers or RPS premium, both retail for around $50 for a case of 2000.  I have had excellent results with both of these paints in my own and my teams flatlines, both M98 and A5's.  There is also a lot of great information to help you in the flatline stickies, so check that out too.  Much of what happens in painball is learned by doing it, and of course getting it wrong most of the time.  You'll get good advice from this site, so stick with it and you'll get better and maybe avoid some costly mistakes down the road.  Good luck.

Oh yeah, soap and water is the best way to clean every part of your marker, including the flatline barrel.  Just remember that if you wash the internals of your marker, remember to make sure it's dry and to oil all moving parts and you'll be fine.



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Sorry for not being giving enough information before.

I heard from a friend that he uses Werks for his flatline and said they never broke.  So I felt safe buying werks, but 5 cases of 500 paintballs each in them.  I clean my barrel with how water a so on.

Should I just return them if I can or what.

I had multiple balls that where 5.5 and 7.5 on a digital measure at work.

And one more question. Is it ok to have dibitson the balls. Thanx
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Ok, 5.5 and 7.5 what?  The numbers are meaningless without some sort of qualifier, are they representing inches, centimeters, miles, or light years?

Now by 'dibits' do you mean that the shell of the paintball looks like a golfball?  If this is the case, then that is the problem with your paint.  Both the shell and the gel fill of a paintball react to different conditions.  On average if the temperature drops too low(below freezing) the gel will contract, creating a vacuum inside the paintball and suck in the shell causing dimples to form in the shell like a golfball.  If the humidity is too high, the shell will expand and soften, making the balls too big for most barrels and not feed properly.  And of course, since the manufactuing of paintball is not an exact science, bad batches will get out.

There is already a sticky for flatline paint, but I'll go through a couple of simple things you'll need to know here.  The flatline performs best with smallbore paint, usually .685 inches or less.  The seams where the two halves of the shell come together should be as smooth as posible without looking like a valley.  The reson for this is that the flatline imparts a spin to the ball, and any deformity in the paintball will cause it to fly erratically.  And last roll a couple balls across a table.  If they don't roll straight, they won't fly straight.  Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by Stormcharger Stormcharger wrote:

Ok, 5.5 and 7.5 what?  The numbers are meaningless without some sort of qualifier, are they representing inches, centimeters, miles, or light years?

Now by 'dibits' do you mean that the shell of the paintball looks like a golfball?  If this is the case, then that is the problem with your paint.  Both the shell and the gel fill of a paintball react to different conditions.  On average if the temperature drops too low(below freezing) the gel will contract, creating a vacuum inside the paintball and suck in the shell causing dimples to form in the shell like a golfball.  If the humidity is too high, the shell will expand and soften, making the balls too big for most barrels and not feed properly.  And of course, since the manufactuing of paintball is not an exact science, bad batches will get out.

There is already a sticky for flatline paint, but I'll go through a couple of simple things you'll need to know here.  The flatline performs best with smallbore paint, usually .685 inches or less.  The seams where the two halves of the shell come together should be as smooth as posible without looking like a valley.  The reson for this is that the flatline imparts a spin to the ball, and any deformity in the paintball will cause it to fly erratically.  And last roll a couple balls across a table.  If they don't roll straight, they won't fly straight.  Hope this helps.



It helped, I ment .55 and .75 like the .68 stanard.
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you found paintballs in a batch that measured .55?????? sounds like you got your hands on some really really bad balls
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Originally posted by AllStarGamer101 AllStarGamer101 wrote:

To whom this may concern,

I just bought the tippman 98 flatline barrel and 2, 500 paintballs of werks.  To make it short I measured the calibor of the balls and it was .71 and the balls always breaks in my barrel.  Was it a bad case or what.  Do you have an suggestions for me.  Right now I am out 70 Bucks.

Thanks,

And how should I clean the barrel.

First, forget your high tech measuring of the paint. Get a good quality ball sizer. The only way a ball is going to be .71" is if it has been stored in open bags in a shower stall or steam room. A ball with a diameter of .71" won't even feet through most hopper necks. I have never measured Werks paint but if it exceeds .693" then it is likely defective.

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