In responce to my bible thread.

Anyone can distort the bible, it's been done by more than just you.

Try reading the whole parable, not just one verse.

Let me give you a quote from my last paintball adventure.  "I shot him in the face."  If you didn't know the whole story, wouldn't you be misled?

People have been trying to disprove the bible forever, and never have I seen one valid point...

There has yet to be a valid point proving the bible is correct in all fairness.

Unfortunateky religion isnt practiced behind closed doors and it spills out into the workd affecting those that choose not to be bothered by it and everyone gets offended when the two different beliefs systems collide..

I am not speaking of this forum. I am speaking of the RW.
ie, Jeb and G. W. Bush

Also it doesnt even have to go so far as telling people to be Christian that urks people, but the forcing of others to live up to a Christian standard that isnt nessisary for a happy life.

It is one thing to have a set of personal and moral beliefs, but to make laws and force people to adhere to them, I think is wrong.

When the most powerful people in the world, American president, pope, many others, force their own personal beliefs onto others, people with different ideology are going to be upset and fight back.

Heres To You wrote: Anyone can distort the bible, it's been done by more than just you. Try reading the whole parable, not just one verse. Let me give you a quote from my last paintball adventure.  "I shot him in the face."  If you didn't know the whole story, wouldn't you be misled? People have been trying to disprove the bible forever, and never have I seen one valid point...

 

neither have I.

Wow, I'm glad I missed this debate. Good points all around, but it won't lead to any spectacular revelation for anyone. I will just continue to believe in the science that has controlled the universe and it's contents for billions of years.

There wouldn't be any fight over this if one of them was clear cut. Neither one is proved,a nd I've seen good points for both sides. That said, I believe in Christianity for a reason: I've seen God have a personal relationship with me in my life. I can't make you believe it, I can only show you what I believe.

Pariel wrote: There wouldn't be any fight over this if one of them was clear cut. Neither one is proved,a nd I've seen good points for both sides. That said, I believe in Christianity for a reason: I've seen God have a personal relationship with me in my life. I can't make you believe it, I can only show you what I believe.

I agree.

Wow, no one mentioned Mel Gibson.

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Should we mention it? I will.

I felt the movie explained something deep to me just not very exciting, and I kinda couldn't stay focused, but it was a nice attempt at spreading the word.

If Gods existance was proven one day, or if God showed me that s/he existed I would be angry.

I don't understand how one can sit idle while his "children" suffer. If God created the world and us, s/he sure did a terrible job. There are way to many things wrong with the world we live in. He he has the power to create us, why not perfect us?

Why let little children starve to death? Why let his creation be brought to waste by massive corporations? I could go on about every disgusting thing this world does.

I apologize for my severly biased views. This is how I see it. There might be some simple answer to why he doesn't care and I welcome anyone to enlighten me as to why. I am always willing to change my views.


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In his eyes. We are perfect, the hunger and strife you see is a direct result from our actions. The world has never been perfect, and it was never meant to be. Bad things happen, in the bible, bad things happened over and over to his most devobted worshipers, this isnt to say that he is uncaring. Think of it this way.

If your son had a bike, would you run after your son making sure he didnt fall? No of course not. You would let him learn through trial and error, get a few bumps and bruises on him till he learns how to ride his bike. God is a lot like this, he doesnt want to run after us making the world perfect, he gave us something he refused his second batch angels, free will. If is our responsiblity to shap this world as we see fit. We have created deserts, swamps, bridges and oceans. We dont care that what happens in one part of the world, effects rest of it. The world today, is our own creation, we have ruined one of the greatest gifts given to us by God. It isnt gods fault that the world is a toilet. Its ours, so dont put it off on god.