geez, not again.

OS, if you want to base your claim to superiority upon your belief that I do not have children, you are welcome to do so, but I suggest that this is a giant on feet of clay.

I did not say that I do not have children - I simply decline to disclose whether or not I have children, as it is irrelevant to the discussion, as are my religious beliefs, which I also decline to disclose.

And it is in fact irrelevant, as proven by your silly post - by your theory, no parent could ever remain atheist, yet there are millions of examples to the contrary.

All too often, OS, your argument detereorates to "I know better because I have experience X that you don't".  You should know by now that this is a really, really bad argument.  Particularly on the internet, where you are bound to run into people who disagree with you, but in fact have the very experience of which you speak.

Your argument defeats itself.

EDIT - for the benefit of third-party readers, OS' prior post (before his edit) essentially claimed that because he has children and I do not, that his opinion carries more weight, and moreover, that as soon as my future child said "no" for the first time I would become more religious.  I.e., parents cannot be atheist.  He appears to now have abandoned that argument.

TRAVELER wrote:   I love the expression "I will not let a teacher brainwash my children". There are worse ways of being brainwashed. 3 or 4 hours of television a day, mindless so called "musicians" singing anything that sells, and who knows what on the internet.

I am aware of the issues with that phrase ("brainwash"), which are quite legitimate - and I must of course admit to some hyperbole as well.

In a large sense, of course, childrearing is nothing but brainwashing.  But, generally speaking, we allow parents to decide what kind of brainwashing to allow/participate in.

Are the brainwashing effects of MTV better/worse than state-sanctioned religion?  That would be a matter for the parents to decide, I would think.  I suspect there are a variety of opinions on the matter.

:)

Frank Zappa wrote: We should be more concerned on all the conspiracy cover ups.

Check the sig.

Frank Zappa wrote: Darur. You would think the Boy Scouts were training terrorists. But no, its worse, much worse. They believe in God, and don't let scout leaders be homosexual.

omg does the FBI know about this organization? lol

i dont see the problem with letting grown men that will be spending weeks at a time with young boys alone in a tent/camp be **edited**?  whats the big deal?  lol jk i think its stupid that there is actually an argument over whether or not its alright for these men or any of the boys to be **edited**...if u think about it a **edited** boy would be spending more time alone with the others than the adults would and also has to take showers with these boys...

at school our football manager during the 7th and 8th grade was **edited** but everybody just now found out about it...it was one of those things were ppl say hes **edited** but dont really mean it they just think hes a metro but now he has a **edited** pride org in our town.  sorry to get off topic but that just made me think about how messed up it is that he was watching us shower for two years straight.  ughhh