Legal silencer (A5flatline) ?! |
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89JW
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Posted: 28 September 2005 at 11:32pm |
What if... this might be a very stupid idea (since i'm next to zero in aerodinamics), but here it goes... what if we could make a certain amount of holes (as small as possible) at a certain degree (45 to be more precise, facing same direction as the air flow of the barrel), on the horizontal plane, in the barrel of the A5 flatline, stuff the shroud with fiberglass (or other), and assemble it back?! In theory, it all works out, except for the: 1) Would the drilling damage to the interior of the barrel be very vital to it's performance? 2) And what would be the distance capability loos of the barrel? If i'm repeating someones idea, i'm sorry... I did a search though, nothing of the sort came up... Thank you for taking your time to read this. Would love to see your opinions. Andrei. |
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hmmmmm....i dont know....cause if you drill into your barrel you might get burs on the inside witch could result in ball breakage....but me i would just get a old flatline barrel cheap from somewhere and experiment
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89JW
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Yes, I agree, but think about it this way... the barrel is metal, and when drilling metal, especially with a small (thin) drill bit, the burs might not be that segnificant + is the inside of the barel coted with ceramic?? is so, the there would be no burs at all... since I could simli pull something through te barell (like a squeege, only softer), and brush of the ceramic residue, resulting in virtually no burs... so is the inside of the flatline coted with ceramic (or other material that has ceramic (sand) properties?? |
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cv222005
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read this from the www.atf.gov aparently silecers are illegal for pball too.
(A9) Q. Are Paintball and/or Airgun Sound Suppressers legal? [Back] A. §921(a)(24) The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication. Numerous paintball silencers tested by the Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be, by nature of their design and function, firearm silencers as defined in 18 U.S.C., Section 921(a)(24). An individual wishing to manufacturer a firearm silencer must receive prior approval from ATF by submitting an ATF Form 1 and paying a $200 making tax. Edited by cv222005 |
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89JW
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I am aware of that... but <poopy>that (sorry about my language)!!! <don't apologize - just read the rules and follow them> If it's illegal, IT'S ILLEGAL!!! How does $200 not make it illegal anymore?! Do they have the same policy for cocaine? if so, how much is a dealer licence? Thank you. PS: Soda bottles or any other plastic bottles should also be illegal then since they can also serve as silencers for small caliber handguns... Edited by Rambino |
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Snake6
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You could easily make a silencer, but call it a "Fake Suppressor" Im making a "fake Suppressor" on the CNC Machine....
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Clark Kent
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This mod gets suggested every so often - somebody should actually try it and report back.
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89JW
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Ok. I get your point. As soon as i work out the detail and find a used flatline, I PROMISE ILL TRY IT AND POST MY FINDINGS... |
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evil_fingers
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Thats true, it does get suggested so much but, why take the chance in really trying to make one because, the last thing anyone wants is having BATF and the local Sheriff knocking at their door because someone reported that he/she was able to create a silencer/sound supressor for their marker but, failed to report it to the BATF to be approved for use. |
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The Guy
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I say go ahead and make it. The ATF has better things to do than chase down paintballers.
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DeTrevni
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i dont know if this is true or not, but i heard that the atf outlawed paintball silencers because they can be used on real guns. i heard about a loop hole somewhere that says if the silencer is part of the barrel, and cant be removed (example, welding), then its legal. gluing doesnt count because its just attatching, not built in. using this loop hole, the flatline should be legal. also, you cant use the flatline silencer idea on a real gun because of the curve of the barrel. it might actually be a legal design. -edit- also, drill the holes on the bottom of the barrel, because the ball is forced to the top and will be out of the way. Edited by DeTrevni |
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The Guy
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ummm,
the flatline shroud isn't welded on. |
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whack-a-mole
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yeah, i agree. make one when you get a chance and report back. You can still use it in back-yard paintball. I think it would be cool.
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the_blade
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evcen if burs develop at the end of the barrel its noting a sanding wheel couldnt get rid of?
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Apperently not enough stupidity is illegal in Texas since your not locked up yet....
Sorry you left the barn door wide open for the horses to run through on that one. |
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DeTrevni
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oh ha flippin ha...
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89JW
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... and how exactly do you plan to use the sanding wheel? the burs will form on the inside of the barrel... PLUS: The interior of the barrel is coted with ceramic... so, burs can not form, because ceramic dissipates... but then again, thats all theory for now... I still havent found a used flatline to test my theory... :( SO THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR SANDING... theortically... :) |
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The Guy
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No, do not report back. There will be no forum discussion involving directions to build an illegal silencer. |
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Snake6
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Yeah. If you do report back, DO NOT include instructions on how to make it. Also It is true that if a silencer is part of a barrel it is legal. As long as the barrel cannot be modded to fit a real gun. |
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