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anybody who has done this to a 98 it would be much appericiated if you would put up some pics i would like to see what it is susposed to look like

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the qev should not waste any air, as all it does is provide a shortcut for exhaust air.
the high flow hoses, in theory, should take more air though. it might be a negligible amount, and i might be wrong. i don't have the time or money to waste paintballs and air in an efficiency test. maybe a reball field owner could settle the old "rt consumes more gas" argument with some hard data. wouldn't cost him much at all.
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I'm very interested in using this mod.  I just have one question however:

Does this mod allow the R/T and/or Cyclone to consume more air?  I noticed that instead of the air going back to the marker, it is released via the QEV.
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1.) Go HERE
2.) Select your country.
3.) Enter other information it asks for (zip/postal etc.)
4.) Scroll down, and information on the nearest dealer will be displayed.

Now go get it tuned, and have some fun!

 

I orderded exactly the part number that were provided. The parts I received had the same numbers. The T banjo does not have a screw head its solid? The hose is too small? The exhaust side of the QEV, does it need to be plugged? If so with what. Last,This is called a MEV not a QEV...whats the difference? You have to buy these parts in multipul per package which costed aboy 10 or 12 bucks more than a Palmer QEV. is there any advantage over the Palmer than this one. If not, dont waste your time or extra money. Go with a Palmer. IMO Thanks in advance
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you dont need a lpk, and the QEV from palmer should work fine, or you could just do clippard's mev either or :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ShadowRide Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2006 at 12:41am
would the High flow Qev from Palmer work fine without a lpk?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fenrirshaman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2006 at 12:25pm
and another thing, i was talking to  the rep and she explained to me the difference between a QEV and an MEV for all you who are wondering or are thinking they are the same thing...a QEV is bigger and uses a bigger release allowing it to release the air quicker than a standard MEV...but does anyone know if this is really necessary, or does the MEV cycle air out fast enough as it is?  I noticed Ravenguard used a Clippard MEV (Clippard doesnt make QEV's small enough for paintball guns).  I figured the MEV would cycle fast enough and a QEV would just be overkill, so i just got a MEV.
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Thanks Ravenguard for a great tutorial.  I found a clippard dealer by me and got all the pieces, cant wait to  put it together and start shooting people!
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I figured I'd go ahead and post what i believe are better alternative sources for these parts.

McMaster.com (part number first)
5006K34 Abrasion-Resistant Clear PVC Tubing 1/8" Id, 3/16" Od, 1/32" Wall (0.13/ft)
2844K53 Nickel-Plated Brass Barbed Tube Fitting Swvl Tee Barb X Unf X Barb for (2.83)
2844K13 Nickel-Plated Brass Barbed Tube Fitting Barb X Unf Male for 1/8" Tube Id, (0.83 x2)
9452K14 Buna-N O-Ring AS568A Dash Number 006, Packs of 100 (Same as (2.17) - Optional

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http://www.countysports.com/shop/product.php?productid=3258& cat=0&page=1
Palmers QEV $10 + super low shipping

Thats it. I would buy at least 2 ft of hose, and those small #6 orings are completely optional, you get an unusable number of them for 2 usd and i prefer loctite. I also reccomend low-strength-loctite on all 10-32 threads, especially qev->ram. The qev probably won't line up right if you screw it all the way down, so the best way to secure it facing the right direction is loctite.

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Pics of my <15usd Super RT + qev
Had to grind the barbs on the cyclone side. the barb on the qev had one full barb removed, and the tee was ground slightly. Dremel work. This allows enough clearance. Also, getting the old barb out of the rt flow control valve was a pain. I actually tore the barb off completely and had to take a dremel cutting disk and slot it so I could unscrew it w/ a flathead. Dang red loctite.
I have to say this is a must-have for hpa.

This is a useful page about the palmers qev. Especially the highlighted green part. The palmers qev is adjustable if it doesn't work.



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What would the total cost of this upgrade? I just ordered the barbs and QEV from palmer and it was like $27. I still need to purchase the kit from Tippmannparts for $20 plus shipping. Do you guys think its more cost effective to purchase an e-grip?

Some here posted that Tippmann wil send FREE upgrade for the R/T (the same $20 kit from tippmann parts) as long as you tell them its for your marker that will no longer be using CO2 but HPA tank. Is that true?

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Now I am VERY FRIGGIN annoyed, the clippard site is a POS! It is SLOW and won't even let me friggin' checkout! Does anybody know of a place where I can get this stuff BESIDES the offical store?
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Tobert... I have both and no problems. Then again I have an A-5..
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I have a Tippmann 98 custom with a RT on it, i have heard from some people that the RT and the cyclone together on the same gun have problems working together because they are both drawing air at the same time. Is this true? if so then i want get a cyclone feed system but i will get a electronic hopper.
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I read tutorial and I'm very gretefull for all the information, but the only thing I'm missing is the 1/8" Flow Control Adjuster, can you give me the part number from Clippard that I need, because when you search their site for a Flow control adjuster they don't give me any results but search for Flow control valve and they don't give me enough information on the valves for me to feel confortable ordering it.  By the way I will be using  1/8" tubing. Thank you
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you could also just use the 1/16" hose instead of the 1/8"...

You would just need to replace the bajo t with a 1/8" - 1/16" and it would probably be the same.
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Orifice LPK part ... Tippmann part #02-102

I actually called them and asked. I was told that it does what was said earlier ...  increase air pressure and decrease volume of air passing thru. I have the clippard QEV with 1/8" fitting and hose and cant seem to properly get it on. The Orifice is longer than the area between the barb tips(between gun output and QEV input)
Here are some pics...

Orifice

The Orifice is between QEV and T


And what I plan on doing is making another one of these. I work at a place with a machine shop. I know not all of us have that luxury. But I will write down some dimensions of what I got. Good luck to anyone else trying this.

Tippmann customer service said it wasnt necessary(orifice) but if you were havin cyclone starvin issues then you would want to add the orifice in setup
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The only difference is the Palmers will be more durable, but it's probably not worth doing, especially since you already have the clippard one.

A pretty low pressure (in paintball terms) actually makes it to the cyclone, so it'll be fine if it's only tolerant to something like 150psi.
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I guess a better question or better defined would be ...

One thing I think people failed to specify
was maybe the clippard dealer parts.. mainly the QEV they recommended in the super RT mod

I currently have the clippard QEV installed.
But was wondering what difference if any... does the following have to do with my particular setup


If I am going HPA .. with RT...and currently getting LPK with Super RT installed(clippard QEV +rest from tippmann parts) Do I need the Palmer QEV..

The part.. below
Palmer QEV part# PNEU053  (it's called  QEV 10-32 Swivel Lock)
has a rating of 300 PSI..

and could you explain to me the difference between that
https://palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/product_info.php/products_ id/424?osCsid=22dbb8ccd3b6b50df8c1c54e5b82fc9e
High Flow QEV 10-32 Swivel Lock
[PNEU056] -300 psi max

VS


QEV 10-32
[PNEU051] - 500 PSI MAX
https://palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/product_info.php/cPath/30_ 33/products_id/182?osCsid=22dbb8ccd3b6b50df8c1c54e5b82fc9e
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ok. I have this nicely setup already. Unfortunately, I wanna get a LPK and was wondering if the clippard QEV will work(Since I already have it) .. or should get the palmers QEV? since I think i read that it is better

I currently am switchin over to HPA - have the palmers stabilizer+ crossfire 68/4500 PSI tank...
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Originally posted by Crazystick Crazystick wrote:

where do you get the o rings from that go between QEV and cyclone feed?


off of the extra barbs you'll get in the package.
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