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Full Auto Non-Electronic 98c or A-5 Stock

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    Posted: 06 June 2006 at 7:43pm

Mortisdeum discovered a small trick that is able to turn a 98 custom into a full auto gun with the parts that are already in the gun and no real work needed.  I expanded on this and figured out how to do it on my A-5.  The A-5 is slightly more complicated but here are both ways.

Two simple things for the 98c

  1. Take out the pin that the sear rests on
  2. Extend the sear tripper on the trigger so the sear now rests in it

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The simple things for the A-5

  1.  Take out the pin that the sear rests on.
  2. Extend the sear tripper on the trigger so the sear now rests in it.  This should look similar to the 98c.  The sear tripper is now covering the hole that the safety goes through.

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  1. Now take a dremmel tool and dremmel the bottom right part of the sear tripper.

 Sear Tripper

The reason this works is now the trigger will hold the sear down so the bolt and hammer will not be caught on the blow back and will fly forward to cycle again. That will keep happening till the trigger is released and the sear rises back up and catches the hammer.
Here is the vid



Edited by kman1898 - 06 June 2006 at 9:01pm
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26 BPS A bit slower then expected but with in the range of a few hoppers but a whole Q-Loader pod would be gone in less then 3.8 Sec
Here is the pic
One thing i did notice was ther was a good bit of vibration mostly from the hammer flying back and forth 

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that video looked awesome... if you do it to the a-5 let us know how the cyclone puts up
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the Cyclone was working pretty well but not amazing.  It sputtered a little.

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That was so sweet when we did that today.

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yea it was
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That thing kicks ass.

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You have guts to risk you gun for that.  Nice work though
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its not really risking the gun though, just like a $3 piece of the trigger. how fast did the a5 go?
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this is so old.
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About 27 BPS
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how do you get your cyclone to keep up with it? I tried it and my a-5 chopped soooooooooooo much paint.
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the Cyclone was working pretty well but not amazing.  It sputtered a little.

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this is such an old idea. when will people learn that its pointless to try and get full auto. shooting 25 bps is worthless if your gun goes out of control and has no consistancy and chops paint and can't shoot accuratly to safe your life and the life of your entire family. if you really want full auto go buy an ape boarded e-grip, that way its atleast regulated some, not free firing at its own pace.



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buy an r/t or e grip. good luck feeding that monster.
Canadians do it on top.
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feeding is an easy decision. qloader seens to be only choice unless you like spending tons to upgrade a hopper\

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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

feeding is an easy decision. qloader seens to be only choice unless you like spending tons to upgrade a hopper\

even a qloader will only keep up for a little bit.
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even if it did the whole pod would be gone in a matter of seconds.
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ill try this when i get my new super r/t parts....ill try it while i got the gun apart, ill be using a halob with victory board on setting six..ill let u no how it turns out
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qloader loading speeds depend on how you mount it, the more tube+bends the slower it feeds. If you direct mount it itll feed 25 without a sweat.
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