Flatline.. inaccurate as heck?

Cypher5601 wrote: LMAO STORMY is stalking me !! No autographs today sorry!

It's his assigned week to correct the misinformation you spread.

Ace_Of_Spades wrote: kurieitaa wrote: try not to bump posts a couple years old. or 10 days for that matter

He's a noob with a ghetto-marker.  He doesn't know any better. 

Listen dude throw that flatline garbage out. I and my whole team had one for woodsball and the accuracy was so bad we all bought JJ ceramics and swear by them. The flatline is poorly made and the barrel inside the shroud often comes loose after play. Distance is no advantage when u cant hit a person 20yrds in front of you accurately. Get a JJ ceramic and you will be so much happier.

murthoj wrote: would anyone reccomend the lpk with an egrip/ape rage? i like 3 round burst and i have the flatline. i want more accuracy so i am looking into other products that may help my a-5. some have said not to go lpk with e-triggers. i am new to low pressure kits. their main purpose is to maintain a certain level of psi, right?

try not to bump posts a couple years old.

MilSimBaller wrote: If youa ask me, I'd take accuracy over distance any day.

My experience is that one is not sacrificing accuracy for distance, but then I spend a LOT of time getting everything perfect on my marker.

But, the day you take that shot that is half again as far as any you would attempt with your ordinary barrel...with the guy so far away that he is not even ducking behind a bunker 'cause he KNOWS no one can reach him...and "pop" there is a great big splat on his goggles...

Then, as his curses waft across the battle field (who the heck shot me?) you'll think, "Man, I want to do that again," and you're hooked on that backspinning "inaccurate" barrel.

 

I can easily say that my Dye Ultralite on my Spyder was alot more "Accurate" but I just LOVE the flat trajectory and range of the Flatline.. which is why I'm keeping it, at close range the Flatline works pretty good

RevoXT wrote: Alright, I'll take it to the chrono and adjust the velocity then post again in this topic if anything is wrong, I do know I am sacrificeing accuracy for range, but personally the extra range does wonders and the flat-trajectory is just amazing. (Still thinkin'bout gettin the Apex though)

Strictly speaking you are not sacraficing accuracy for range. At normal ranges your Flatline should be as accurate as any barrel. Mine is.

When you take those long shots the ball is slowing and more susceptible to even the slightest wind current. You are taking a shot with the Flatline that you would likely not attempt with any other barrel.  I can attest to the barrels accuracy from some extensive long range testing inside a large warehouse. The marker was sand bagged in place to assure shot to shot repeatability.

At over 200 feet I could put a majority of my shots on a paper plate (7 out of 10). I cannot do that outside. The barrel is very accurate even at that extended  range, but there is just too much happening to the ball after such a long flight.

Edited by Bruce A. Frank - 24 August 2006 at 4:42pm

I installed the A-5 LPK myself, and I am no technical genius.  Took about an hour altogether.

Took the gun to the range and started blasting away.  I had to re-tweak my RT to reset the sweetspot, but that was it.

Others may have had problems, but I don't see what the big deal is.  Whether the LPK is worth it is another question entirely, but it certainly isn't rocket science to install.

As to Flatline accuracy - I certainly agree with Bruce that the main benefit is the flat trajectory, which makes it so much easier to aim.  But in terms of ball-hitting-target accuracy, I must say that my quality straight barrels are much more accurate than the Flatline, at least with my PMI Premium paint.

From what I've been reading Bruce, you have to modify the gun quite a bit more after installing the LPK to get it to run smoothly.... it's not just buy the kit, install, and play.

Ok, I don't care about all this crap in the past few posts...

I never saw any mention of what fps your shots were.  The flatline is very unique in it's extreme sensitivity in flight characteristics when changing the velocity.  Whereas most barrels will notice more irratic ball movement through a slightly less accurate shot grouping while increasing the velocity well above 300fps, the Flatline will begin tossing balls in completely different directions shot to shot.

For it to operate at its best, it should be set somewhere in the vicinity of 280fps.  Assuming you know you have the flatline correctly installed, you can actually adjust (if you are a combination of good at it and lucky) the velocity by watching the acuracy of the flatline.

In your case, I would go to a chrono, set it to 280fps and try again.  My paint of choice is Marballizer, and secondary is Midnight.  But almost any high quality small bore paint will work fine, those are just a few I tried and have had nothing but success with.