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    Posted: 27 August 2006 at 3:12am
Legalize all drugs:

http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026951.php#026951


I thought it was a pretty interesting video O_o
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Too bad everyone with half a brain already knew that

and everyone else is too indoctrinated with DRUGS R BAD to ever think twice about it

Preeeeetty depressing, eh


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yeah, that makes sense

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I didnt even watch it and that is true the only problem is that it would put some cops out of buisness

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I dont think any of the harder drugs (coke, shrums etc.) should be legalized. But weeds a different story.
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Shrooms aren't hard...

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My views...

Legal:
Weed (all forms including hash and oils and things)
Shrooms
LSD (and LSA and those)
DMT (and AMT)
DXM
DOM (and all the others)
Salvia (all extracts)
Ketamine
Peyote (and all other cacti)
MDMA
Datura
2C-B

Illegal, but not criminal:
Heroin
Coke
Meth
Pharms (like Vicodin and Oxycontin)

I think like that because all the drugs under the "Legal" list are meant to be respected and not abused.  If they were all legal, people would try them and become enlightened of their power and wouldn't use them to just "get high" or "catch a buzz".  The "Illegal" ones are simply used to mess with your head.  They're all addictive and can and will kill.  That's not to say that all cocaine users are helpless addicts that are going to die from their use, but most people can't be responsible enough to tell themselves when they've had enough or that they're addicted to a substance.

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i think datura is a tad bit dangerous to be used... it isn't illegal is it? i have some growing in my flowerbed.  
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Trogdor, salvia is legal
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Trogdor, salvia is legal

Not for long though.  I think there's something pending about it's legality in one of the southern states.  The minute that's passed, everyone will jump right on the bandwagon and ban it.
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Originally posted by Trogdor2 Trogdor2 wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Trogdor, salvia is legal

Not for long though.  I think there's something pending about it's legality in one of the southern states.  The minute that's passed, everyone will jump right on the bandwagon and ban it.
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yeah legalize all drugs and watch the amount of break and enters go up, that a very good idea. I really want joe coke head trying to steal all my stuff cause he can get 8 balls whenever he wants.
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Quote "Legalize all drugs. Legalize them so we can control them and regulate them and keep them out of the hands of our children."


Isn't that what we did with alcohol? Look how easy it is for a minor to get their hands on alcohol. Would it not be the same with drugs?

Quote "I think [war on drugs] has ruined the lives of so many of our fellow citizens,"


Haven't drugs themselves ruined the lives of so many citizens? So many people get hooked, quit giving a damn, and their life goes down the drain and they end up with no future.

Kids are taught don't do drugs, they're harmful and addicting. If we legalize drugs, I think some of those kids would think, "Well, if its legal, it can't be harmful or anything." Then they get hooked, before you know it they go broke from trying to feed their addictions.

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Easy solution is to genetically make the plants that the drugs are made from, make them poisonous. They will eventually take over the "good" plants and be the sole source.

Then when people use weed, coke, etc. they will be killed in the process.


This will remove 2 birds with 1 stone in one very nice swoop.
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Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

yeah legalize all drugs and watch the amount of break and enters go up, that a very good idea. I really want joe coke head trying to steal all my stuff cause he can get 8 balls whenever he wants.


He already can. The point is that the supply of drugs is higher than ever, so why keep fighting it when we can help the people who are addicted and don't have the support to get off of it themselves.

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Isn't that what we did with alcohol? Look how easy it is for a minor to get their hands on alcohol. Would it not be the same with drugs?


It's easier for them to get marijuana than it is alcohol, FYI.

Originally posted by ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:


Haven't drugs themselves ruined the lives of so many citizens? So many people get hooked, quit giving a damn, and their life goes down the drain and they end up with no future.


So instead of locking them up in jail, and spending millions in the process why don't we use that very same money and put it towards rehab programs?

Originally posted by ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:


Kids are taught don't do drugs, they're harmful and addicting. If we legalize drugs, I think some of those kids would think, "Well, if its legal, it can't be harmful or anything." Then they get hooked, before you know it they go broke from trying to feed their addictions.


Yeah because kids go out and drink bleach because it's legal.

Do you have any idea the amount of education that will be forced into these kids if drugs become legal. Legal doesn't mean kids can just do do some heroin. Legal means it will be regulated, which clearly means minors wont be allowed to purchase it.

Seriously. Most of the reasons to keep drugs illegal are these weird speculations that come out of right field. Give me something real.
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Trogor, DXM is legal, its in most cough suppressants
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Originally posted by 636andy636. 636andy636. wrote:

Trogor, DXM is legal, its in most cough suppressants

So is Datura, DOI, and Salvia (for now).  DXM is starting to be regulated more and more though.  Some places require you to be 18 to buy Robitussin and you'll definitly get in some sort of trouble for performing an extraction and getting a large ammount of pure DXM.
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"It's easier for them to get marijuana than it is alcohol, FYI"

yes but kids can still get there hands on alcohol

"He already can. The point is that the supply of drugs is higher than ever, so why keep fighting it when we can help the people who are addicted and don't have the support to get off of it themselves."

people who are addicted dont want help they want there drugs

"So instead of locking them up in jail, and spending millions in the process why don't we use that very same money and put it towards rehab programs?"

so instead of spending the money on a "drug war" were selling them there drugs and then were paying for them to go to a rehab program that thell never complete, Cause were still selling them drugs cause there legal!

"Legal means it will be regulated, which clearly means minors wont be allowed to purchase it."

but just like alcohol theyll get there hands on it 

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Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

yes but kids can still get there hands on alcohol

So should we make alcohol illegal again?


Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

people who are addicted dont want help they want there drugs

So? It's their right to do them if they want to. And you don't know that they don't want help.

If they commit crimes while they are high, they are still crimes. I'm not excusing that.


Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

so instead of spending the money on a "drug war" were selling them there drugs and then were paying for them to go to a rehab program that thell never complete, Cause were still selling them drugs cause there legal!

You're making it pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about. Why do you think people won't be rehabilitated when drugs are legal? Because they are legal? That doesn't make sense. People can get drugs now, in greater supplies than ever before, and they are illegal.

And don't think there aren't rehab programs for legal drugs already.

Originally posted by little devil little devil wrote:

but just like alcohol theyll get there hands on it



The point is that they already get their hands on it, and with more ease than alcohol. Are you retarded?


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Originally posted by ProfReality ProfReality wrote:

Originally posted by ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:


Isn't that what we did with alcohol? Look how easy it is for a minor to get their hands on alcohol. Would it not be the same with drugs?


It's easier for them to get marijuana than it is alcohol, FYI.

And legalizing marijuana will..... make it harder?

Originally posted by ProfReality ProfReality wrote:

Originally posted by ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:


Haven't drugs themselves ruined the lives of so many citizens? So many people get hooked, quit giving a damn, and their life goes down the drain and they end up with no future.


So instead of locking them up in jail, and spending millions in the process why don't we use that very same money and put it towards rehab programs?


So say we did that. Get arrested with drugs, you get sent to rehab. We're still spending the same money and everything, except, the punishment is drastically less severe. Whats that gonna do? I think it'd encourage people tp try to get away with drugs since the consequences aren't anything major. You get caught with drugs and all you have to do is BS your way through rehab and your back on the streets.
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