Thank you Sen. Kerry.

Phil: No point in arguing with ya man. Try reading the article with an open mind and then pm me. We're going off topic in this thread.


Anyway, on Kerry, did anyone hear his explanation? He said he was referring to the importance of being informed citizens and students of history so that their country doesn't get stuck in a place like Iraq. I don't know how genuine that is, but I do have trouble believing that a man who signed up and went into a war zone with his fellow troops is actually suggesting that our men and women in the US Military are stupid or uneducated.

Oh and I hate the term "anti-military"....I seriously can not think of anyone who is anti-military, except for that idiot church in Florida  and that one gothic lookin kid. Just because you oppose how they are being used or the amount of money that is going to them instead of programs that would help the US citizenry, they say you hate our troops....it's bullcrap.

Tae Kwon Do wrote: I do think there are a lot of stupid people who have no other means but to join the military, and not as officers. They are the grunts going to Iraq.

Ah. So it comes out. Being a grunt makes one stupid. So I am stupid. Because I scored relatively high on the ASVAB. Yet I chose Infantry. I'm a rifleman. Puts me right on the frontlines and makes me dumb.

Its like you know me too well Clark.

That is what I was saying. People who do not have the grades or money to go to any college (community or not) have one or two options. Get low paying manual labor job, or join the military. Most of my friends back home who could not get into college just joined the Navy or Airforce (for some reason those two recruit down here like crazy).

Recruiters can be found more often in poor neighborhoods, and in poorer performing schools. There is a reason for that.

I am not saying that everyone in the military is stupid. Someone from my school got a 36 (That is perfect) on his ACT and got a full ride to the Airforce Academy. Yes, he took it. I do not think he is stupid.

I do think there are a lot of stupid people who have no other means but to join the military, and not as officers. They are the grunts going to Iraq.

Like Mr. Kent said, John Kerry was not saying all soldiers are stupid. He was saying the same thing I am saying, he just worded it poorly.


The chip on the shoulders of the forum-servicemen is astounding.

Ken Majors wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: I agree with what he said. The most disrespectful statement I have witnessed on this forum thus far.

Pity.

Tae Kwon Do wrote: I agree with what he said.

The most disrespectful statement I have witnessed on this forum thus far.

Edited by Ken Majors - 31 October 2006 at 10:25pm

I guess there arent any officers in Iraq, just chock full of sergeants? K, gotcha.

Kerry screwed up.  Hope it doesn't cost my team too much.  I'm guessing there are very few people this late in the game who can be swayed one way or the other.  People's minds are made up.  Besides, if your patriotismo gets all in a bind over what Kerry said, you should still be stinging over President Bush jokingly looking under desks and rugs for W.M.D.'s during the national press correspondents dinner. 

Glad we cleared that up. 

Kristofer wrote: Answer that question. Do you believe he is saying you are lacking intelligence if you serve in the military?

No.

Gatyr wrote: Mack wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: I agree with what he said. What who said? Pfft. You must not konw very much if you can't realize what he means.

I wasn't sure if he was referring to Sen. Kerry's statement or one of the other off topic arguments occurring afterwards. Oh, by the way, it's spelled "know", not "konw".