Thank you Sen. Kerry.

I'll be honest. I didn't even read this thread. This may have already been
said... but he made a dry joke and now it's being blown out of porportion.
That's all.


If someone has said that already...then sorry to repeat.

There are those college educated who prefere to be in the enlisted ranks. It is a matter of choice, lead or be lead, education does not necesarily make a leader. And that fact is true in the military as well as in the bussiness world.

Edited by oldsoldier - 01 November 2006 at 11:30am

Actually the reverse is generally true. The higher educated and skilled re-enlist for second terms to complete training in desired skill fields or college. The usual entitlement mentality, future paper hat, name tag wearing individuals leave after first enlistments, not thinking long term.

Edited by oldsoldier - 01 November 2006 at 11:18am

TKD I joined the military (initially after the request by the NYC Courts) and yet re-enlisted and continued in the military probably for the same reason or reasons you are in college and persuing your personal goals and career aspirations. I liked what I did, It was the best of times, yet the worst of times. Being a "Grunt" was fun. Why do you play paintball, a "wargame" a contridiction in belief system if you ask me

A simple disclaimer of social responsibility of military: 99.9 percent of the enlisted forces have at least a high school education, and 73.3 percent have been to college. Compare to your social standard "poor" community.


It is my sense of duty and honor, that even carries on today. As an example I can easily stay home, rest and recoup as per DR's orders, but I contacted my Diversity professor, and I will be there, braces and crutches, for the class debate on Friday, for there are three other students on my debate "team" that I will not let down, nor expect to carry my load in my absense.

I readily admit that I am not well edumacated in "high english" and do make the usual and frequent two fingered fast typing errors. (plus today the percocet isn't helping still some pain involved).

Actually recruiters can be found everywhere, in rich communities, poor, college campuses (those without the prejudice)and yes even in the poor communities. ROTC and Reserve and NG enlistments are up, yes for college assistance, why is it so expensive to be "trained" as a liberal, yet the military pays you to be "trained" as an American.

Edited by oldsoldier - 01 November 2006 at 11:15am

Tae Kwon Do wrote: Tell us, oh noble OS, why did you join the military again?

ruh-roh

 

 

 

grr - bumped myself.  stupid triple-posting.

Edited by Clark Kent - 01 November 2006 at 10:39am

lol.....Kris, seriously?

I read what you said. You said. The dumb ones are the grunts going to Iraq. Plain and simple.

Clark Kent wrote: oldsoldier wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote:    They are the grunts going to Iraq. Like Mr. Kent said, John Kerry was not saying all soldiers are stupid. He was saying the same thing I am saying, he just worded it poorly. The chip on the shoulders of the forum-servicemen is astounding. The arrogance of those individuals on the forum who have never served or have the intestinal fortatude to serve, as well as thier ingnorance on the military is even more astounding. How is this arrogant?  Whale is making a very straightforward observation about the military. There is no rational way to take this as an insult.

I find that many current/ex-military folks seem to think that because you haven't done what they have done or seen what they have seen that you don't have a right to an opinion on military matters. Displaying such an opinion is perceived as arrogance.....

That in itself is the problem for many who never served. From the current slant in the news, the trend is to doubt any statement no matter how percieved at the moment, by those who have shown no love for the military in the past. His past references as well as testimony as to the VN vet as a "war criminal" besmerching(sp) the reputation of another generation has made many question his actual motive or intent.

I personally am not insulted by the remark, I consider the source, based on above. The perceptions of youth here on the initial comment and spin leads me to question the standards they see themselves upholding.

Edited by oldsoldier - 01 November 2006 at 10:28am

Kristofer wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: I do think there are a lot of stupid people who have no other means but to join the military, and not as officers. They are the grunts going to Iraq. Ah. So it comes out. Being a grunt makes one stupid. So I am stupid. Because I scored relatively high on the ASVAB. Yet I chose Infantry. I'm a rifleman. Puts me right on the frontlines and makes me dumb.

I swear - you can't possibly be that dumb.  You must be misunderstanding this on purpose.  Please tell me you are misunderstanding this on purpose.