Thank you Sen. Kerry.

Whoever that was waiting for some response to some "fact-filled" bit of trivia I can do one better.

How many forumers are there here that don't have a college education but do have stable work, don't live with mom, and don't cook french fries?

I would like to see how many options there are other than a college degree and Iraq. I know there are a few, but not many. I live in the Ohio rust belt and know for a fact that 250,000 people turned in their hardhats for blue "may I help you" aprons.

Kerry was right, deal with it. Your generation's options are bleak but you continue to support the regime making it bleaker. Say high to Al-Sadr for me!!

Edited by goodsmitty - 02 November 2006 at 7:14pm

goodsmitty wrote: Whoever that was waiting for some response to some "fact-filled" bit of trivia I can do one better. How many forumers are there here that don't have a college education but do have stable work, don't live with mom, and don't cook french fries? I would like to see how many options there are other than a college degree and Iraq. I know there are a few, but not many. I live in the Ohio rust belt and know for a fact that 250,000 people turned in their hardhats for blue "may I help you" aprons. Kerry was right, deal with it. Your generation's options are bleak but you continue to support the regime making it bleaker. Say high to Al-Sadr for me!!

regime? since when does living in a republic mean we have a regime? in 2008. he leaves. he is done with being the President. no regime. never was. the only person to ever possibly have a regime in America was George Washington when it was proposed that he be king.

.ryan, why was this regime threat never an issue with both the house and senate,the court as well as the presidency in the hands and control of the Dems. I do remmmeber from history a president threatening to "stack the court" to get his desired responses and policy passed (FDR in 30's). The ramrodded "great society" legislation of the early 60's (Johnson)where no debate was allowed by the powers that be in the house and senate(the Dems).

There have been by your definition "regimes" in our past, not a unique event in american politics.

Wasn't there a movement to suspend the constitution to allow the possibility of Clinton running for third term, would that be considered the initial stages of a regime?

The more, dare I use the word, "Liberal" courts of Carter, Clinton appointees overrulings, where the "will" of the people, by democratic popular vote, of bills designed by lawyers, researched by lawyers, written by lawyers, reviewed by lawyers, but only upon its passage was the error in constitutionality found, curious.

You really need to look at the next contenders, we all need to move on, the Bush era is just about over, time to get over it and move on. We have no-one, you all have Hillary (bad move there) so what the next election cycle brings will determine the future.

Edited by oldsoldier - 02 November 2006 at 8:16pm

goodsmitty wrote: Whoever that was waiting for some response to some "fact-filled" bit of trivia I can do one better. How many forumers are there here that don't have a college education but do have stable work, don't live with mom, and don't cook french fries? I would like to see how many options there are other than a college degree and Iraq. I know there are a few, but not many. I live in the Ohio rust belt and know for a fact that 250,000 people turned in their hardhats for blue "may I help you" aprons. Kerry was right, deal with it. Your generation's options are bleak but you continue to support the regime making it bleaker. Say high to Al-Sadr for me!!

Oh Christ are you serious?!?  Just ONCE I'd like you to actually respond to someone calling you out on the FACTS.  Sorry, my previous post was filled with those "pesky" facts, but again, never let those get in the way of a good story or a grandstanding post.

What a joke.

I live in Ohio too, slick, and I'm not seeing what you see.  Care to site me FACTUAL articles or statistics to back up your 250,000 "blue hat" workers claim?  Or are you making that up too, like the numbers in your previous posts?

Absolutely ABSURD forumer wrote: How many forumers are there here that don't have a college education but do have stable work, don't live with mom, and don't cook french fries?

Very scientific of you professor.  Let's get a response from a forum filled with 15 yr. olds on how many have stable work and don't live with Mom and Dad.  Brilliant!  Definitely outdoing that "crazy fact post" of mine.

Really, is this the best you can do?  Why TKD ever referred to you as the "common sense Jesus", I'll never know.  But for my tastes, I'll just refer to you as Cap'n Dodge of the S.S. Blowhard.

Get Real.

Edited by FlimFlam - 02 November 2006 at 11:31pm

True, it is not an arguement, but if all your dreams come true, and in 08 we have a democratic majority in both senate, and house, and democrat president, will you see that as a regime? And will you show the same outrage as thier agenda is rammed thru with little or no debate, rubber stamped legislation, and unchecked presidential power. What becomes of the required checks and balances then? Welcome to the world of American politics and the perpetual pendulem(sp) of American politics. We were left with Carter, we swung right with Reagan, we hit a nuetral with Bush 41, we swung left with Clinton, we swung right with Bush 43, and where we go next.............?

Edited by oldsoldier - 02 November 2006 at 10:53pm

Kristofer wrote: What scares me. What truly scares me is the thought of us pulling out of Iraq early and what could happen. If the Iraqi security forces cant handle it and we leave. I'll be scared.

Why in the blue depths of quantum superposition would THAT scare you?

Its their country, not ours. If they want to be free, let them stand up for it. You know, like America did. If they just want another hate-spewing theocracy, its no skin off our backs.

Fix their oil wells for them, show them how to use them, and bug out. They have just as much chance at being sucessful as any other country.

I think Kerry is trolling IRL.

flimflam the angry namecaller wrote: Very scientific of you professor.  Let's get a response from a forum filled with 15 yr. olds on how many have stable work and don't live with Mom and Dad.  Brilliant!  Definitely outdoing that "crazy fact post" of mine. Really, is this the best you can do?  Why TKD ever referred to you as the "common sense Jesus", I'll never know.  But for my tastes, I'll just refer to you as Cap'n Dodge of the S.S. Blowhard.

Then we can both agree that the vast majority here either cook frenchfries or attend college, and that their best options are college or Iraq in the near future. Glad we can agree on that.

It just struck my that Flim Flam and French Fries start with same letters. Coincidence? Since your reaction seems extremely heightened to my observations about forumers and french fry cooking jobs, I will assume not.

O.S. wrote: As the last helicopter lifts off of the embasy(sp) roof sometime in 2009, and we abandon the Iraqi people to thier fate, the world will again see the limits of American fortitude, and the way of our politics. And unfortuanately the enemies of the US and the west will also take note of our lack of intestinal fortitude in world affairs, and act accordingly.

Their fate was sealed when we entered on the blatant lies offered up by your hero. Now that everyone is seeing that the whole thing is for oil, it's time to bug out. Sorry about the Iraqi luck, but it isn't the soldier's responsibility to guard pipelines, and it isn't the taxpayer's responsibility to pay for it. Every American and Iraqi death falls squarely on the namby-pamby shoulders of King George.

 

Edited by goodsmitty - 03 November 2006 at 7:41am

oldsoldier wrote: As the last helicopter lifts off of the embasy(sp) roof sometime in 2009, and we abandon the Iraqi people to thier fate, the world will again see the limits of American fortitude, and the way of our politics. And unfortuanately the enemies of the US and the west will also take note of our lack of intestinal fortitude in world affairs, and act accordingly.

Bingo Enos. Thats exactly why it makes me scared.

Cap'n Dodge wrote: Then we can both agree that the vast majority here either cook frenchfries or attend college, and that their best options are college or Iraq in the near future. Glad we can agree on that.

A brilliant observation.  You're kidding!  Most of the 15 year olds on this forum can only get jobs cooking fries?!?  Outrageous!  And college students have to do something similar?!?  I can't believe that most college students can't get jobs as the Director of Marketing for some large corporation while they're working on their marketing degrees!  The humanity!

Their best options are high school or college.  And as my "fact-trivia" in former posts has stated, college is an option for nearly everyone that has the motivation to go.

goodsmitty wrote: It just struck my that Flim Flam and French Fries start with same letters. Coincidence? Since your reaction seems extremely heightened to my observations about forumers and french fry cooking jobs, I will assume not.

Hilarious!

C'mon man, you gotta have something stored away in the common sense bible there to show us all your more than a fact dodging rhetoric spewing neck hole...

Twice, I've confronted you with FACTS and asked you to support your argument with something more than rhetoric.  Twice you've changed the subject.  Still waiting for something relevant and or factual from you...

I think I better get a Snickers...