Thank you Sen. Kerry.

Got "rich?" quick, retired at 42, hate it. Still working going to school, whatever. Our $100K plus tri-income (VA dis, mommas city salary, my salary) divided by kid education expenses, the Bank of Dad loans to kids (poor return rate on those, thinkin on raising interst rate and hiring Guidos Collections),taxes, and just living expenses, leaves little for the "oldsoldier retires finally to Alaska" fund, the Harley fund is actually in the negative.

Rico's Revenge wrote: As far as "my arguement," both my arguement and this whole arguement were long over... I'm sick and tired of these two morons re-hashing their liberal crap over and over again.   They have nothing else to say unless it involves a direct shot at Republican America or those dumb military people.   They have had NO direct contact with real life in their 19 years of existance.   After 4 years of being here and listening to their BS and 35 years of life, I am entitled to a melt down.   I think I've earned the right to throw down a rant.   You can talk and talk (read: type and type), but sometime the only thing that really helps is a good biatchslap.

Hehehe.

You are always good for a laugh Rico.

More name calling. Always a good way to go. Thoughtless labeling, another great tactic.

Oooh looks like we have some age assumption going on in there too, that always helps when talking to the Smitty's. "I am older than you are," reminds me of 2nd grade all over again.


By the way, if you are going to use your amount of time on the forum as a bragging point, let me know when you get to six years (of course by then I will have been here eight).

FlimFlam wrote: First, you'll be chagrined to know that the report only deals with recent high school graduates, not "housewives or retired folks" taking classes.

Chagrined indeed.  That's what I get for posting before reading.  Nevertheless, I will forge on, despite the risk of inserting my foot further into my mouth.

But I clearly did a poor job of stating my point.  Let me try again.

1.  Recent national statistics showed that the average income of college graduates is basically double that of a non-college HS grad.

2.  I propose, without supporting data, that similar statistics drilled down would show that the average income of college graduates from state schools or equivalent/better private schools is sharply different from the average income of graduates from community colleges and tech schools.  I can certainly state that the employment opportunities differ vastly between those two categories of schools.

3.  When people in general talk of going to college, they generally don't mean CC or tech school - "college" in common nomenclature means 4-year state school or better.

4.  I propose, without supporting data, that 4-year state colleges are not meaningfully accessible to most Americans, simply on the basis of economics.  Lumping CC/tech schools in with the data skews the data.

Maybe that makes more sense.

pattison wrote: if he is implying that most military people are dumb, he is right. there is, of course, a certain percentage that are not dumb, but it is below 50 without question. political views aside, that is a valid statement.

I'm sure its been said in this thread already, but I'm not going to bother to check.

It was a slam aimed at bush, getting the US stuck in iraq. But as per usual, he screwed it up.

choopie911 wrote: pattison wrote: if he is implying that most military people are dumb, he is right. there is, of course, a certain percentage that are not dumb, but it is below 50 without question. political views aside, that is a valid statement. I'm sure its been said in this thread already, but I'm not going to bother to check. It was a slam aimed at bush, getting the US stuck in iraq. But as per usual, he screwed it up.

Can you honestly see Kerry pulling off a joke anyway? He has as much charisma as a slice of bologna.

Not the good kind either, like the 98 cent chicken stuff.

choopie911 wrote: Tae Kwon Do wrote: choopie911 wrote: pattison wrote: if he is implying that most military people are dumb, he is right. there is, of course, a certain percentage that are not dumb, but it is below 50 without question. political views aside, that is a valid statement. I'm sure its been said in this thread already, but I'm not going to bother to check. It was a slam aimed at bush, getting the US stuck in iraq. But as per usual, he screwed it up. Can you honestly see Kerry pulling off a joke anyway? He has as much charisma as a slice of bologna. Not the good kind either, like the 98 cent chicken stuff. I dont see anyone really pulling off that joke 100% cleanly even if they had worded it properly. There were so many other ways to imply that bush is dumb, but that just had potential for failure all over it.

I sometimes wonder if he is just a spy implanted from the GOP to screw the Democrats over.

I bet he is a robot. Somewhere, John Ashcroft has a microphone for it.


Edited by Tae Kwon Do - 02 November 2006 at 3:28pm

Honestly none of this would be going on if he didnt apologize right after it happened... you can tell when people apologize a couple days later that someone had to tell him to apologize especially right after he said he wouldnt apologize

FlimFlam wrote: 4.  Here's where we part ways.  Four year schools are still very much accessible to those who have always had access to them.  Scholarships, low interest college loans, and other financing options have only grown in recent years.  Do I think that the rise in college tuition is outpacing mean salary growth?  Yes.  Unattainable, no.  And there's always the GI bill...

Fair enough.  As I may have indicated, I don't have meaningful data to back up my points here, but my anecdotes differ from yours.  I know all too many people who were in the "middle" - too poor to pay, too rich for aid.  Similarly, my indirect experiences with the GI bill have been mixed at best.  ROTC seems to be working quite well, but I am not convinced that the GI bill helps that much - particularly with the rising cost of tuition.

But that is perhaps for a different discussion.  I was primarily expressing surprise at the high number of enrollees.  I shall now go and actually read the report.

:)

RicWhic414 wrote: Honestly none of this would be going on if he didnt apologize right after it happened... you can tell when people apologize a couple days later that someone had to tell him to apologize especially right after he said he wouldnt apologize

I don't think so.  Either side would have capitalized on this and kept it going until election day. 

Better yet, Kerry should remember the First Law of Robotics.