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Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:

Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

reading this topic is scary, some ppl have no idea how electricity works.


you cant get electricuted by 20 amps, thats mearly the current flowing through a certain junction, you infact could have any where from 1V-1000V across your hand and where you are grounded to, that infact would have produced a current flowing through you, not even close to a fraction of 20 amps

as for 10k volt circuits shocking you, thats a total load, 600V will cause your muscles to freeze, and higher will cause seriuse damage to your body. (this changes for differnt ppls skin resistance)

theres a bunch more, but im just going to stop.


Yea but you have to remember when explaning things that you aren't on an electric/electronic forum, and you need to keep it simple.  What did you want me to saw, the electromotive force was 10,000 volts?

And yes, it is 10,000 volts.  It is 40 250v, .1 micro farad capacitors.  When I shocked myself it was on the tip of my finger.  I had problems with the wires on the switches moving and completing the circuit, so I didn't know it was charged (thought it was dead) until I got shocked.

EDIT:  I'm not saying 10,000 volts ran threw me finger.  If I can find my multimeter I will tell calculate the resistance of the coil, and be able to tell you how many amps and volts I got.


electromotive force isnt measured in volts either


and ya i was thinking, about the 10KV being to dangerous, its not really, i mean comp air tanks have 3K pressure, bassicly a bomb, as long as the danger is contained


and for that other post that said "since the batterys cant supply enough current, you wont get hurt"

well you gotta remember, its the capacitors supply the current, not the batterys, and even tho those capictors discharge very fast, the peak current, can be very high.


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Put some of them fuel cells or w/e they are in hybrid cars in that thing. :O
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well you obviously didnt get more than 6 milli-amps since you seem to be alive, well and generally alive. since 7 milli-amps at the heart is fatal. voltage doesnt do anything to you, amperage does.

this is because voltage is the electronic version of pressure, voltage forces the amperage through the wires. amperage is what flows.

if you truely have 10,000 volts of electricity charing off 2 9v then your amperage is almost nothing, so your in no danger in my books.

EDIT: also, remeber than childhood game where you drag your socks across the carpet and shock your sibling, well that little bit of static electricity is approximatly 40,000 volts, but is amerpage is too low to measure with even the most precise instruments.


Edited by Black_Shadow - 13 March 2007 at 9:51am
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Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

reading this topic is scary, some ppl have no idea how electricity works.


you cant get electricuted by 20 amps, thats mearly the current flowing through a certain junction, you infact could have any where from 1V-1000V across your hand and where you are grounded to, that infact would have produced a current flowing through you, not even close to a fraction of 20 amps

as for 10k volt circuits shocking you, thats a total load, 600V will cause your muscles to freeze, and higher will cause seriuse damage to your body. (this changes for differnt ppls skin resistance)

theres a bunch more, but im just going to stop.


Yea but you have to remember when explaning things that you aren't on an electric/electronic forum, and you need to keep it simple.  What did you want me to saw, the electromotive force was 10,000 volts?

And yes, it is 10,000 volts.  It is 40 250v, .1 micro farad capacitors.  When I shocked myself it was on the tip of my finger.  I had problems with the wires on the switches moving and completing the circuit, so I didn't know it was charged (thought it was dead) until I got shocked.

EDIT:  I'm not saying 10,000 volts ran threw me finger.  If I can find my multimeter I will tell calculate the resistance of the coil, and be able to tell you how many amps and volts I got.


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reading this topic is scary, some ppl have no idea how electricity works.


you cant get electricuted by 20 amps, thats mearly the current flowing through a certain junction, you infact could have any where from 1V-1000V across your hand and where you are grounded to, that infact would have produced a current flowing through you, not even close to a fraction of 20 amps

as for 10k volt circuits shocking you, thats a total load, 600V will cause your muscles to freeze, and higher will cause seriuse damage to your body. (this changes for differnt ppls skin resistance)

theres a bunch more, but im just going to stop.


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Originally posted by TippmannBro TippmannBro wrote:

Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:

10,000 volts flowing through it


where the hell did you go to school?


Actually, with 40 capacitors, 10,000 volts is a very legit number for the voltage going through that system. It just takes a while for those capacitors to charge with only 18 volts as the power supply.

Cool design. That would be a freaking awesome physics/engineering project. I bet you could get a scholarship from some big paintball gun manufacturer for that (if they don't steal the idea and patent it from you first).


do you even know what voltage is? voltage dosn't flow, the statement dosnt even make sense....


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Innovative work.  I'm looking forward to seeing the results.
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Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:

Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:

10,000 volts flowing through it


where the hell did you go to school?


Actually, with 40 capacitors, 10,000 volts is a very legit number for the voltage going through that system. It just takes a while for those capacitors to charge with only 18 volts as the power supply.

Cool design. That would be a freaking awesome physics/engineering project. I bet you could get a scholarship from some big paintball gun manufacturer for that (if they don't steal the idea and patent it from you first).
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Originally posted by WGP guy2 WGP guy2 wrote:

10,000 volts flowing through it


where the hell did you go to school?


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kool idea, it dosent have to be safe.....just slap some warning lables and it will pass safty lol
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Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

I want to see it working.

So is the bolt basically in the barrel?



Yes thats correct.  I will try to get a video of it working tommorow afternoon.

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

OMG protein stain on the sheet. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!


Ahem, its from spilling gatorade....

EDIT:  oh, the white stuff, no clue what that is I hadn't noticed it before looking at the pic.


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OMG protein stain on the sheet. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
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I'd think you'd get pretty nasty recoil with a reciprocating mass being used to bring the ball up to speed rather than a propellant.
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I want to see it working.

So is the bolt basically in the barrel?

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How fast have you gotten a ball to go?

How did the Evolt work?

EDIT: Nevermind, the evolt compressed air, then forced it down the barrel. I suppose this would be the first gauss paintball gun.


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So here is a pic I took of my actual device:




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Do you know how long it will take for the bolt to reach maximum velosity?  I'd imagine that your initial velocity will be low enough not to break the balls, since you do have them loading directly in front of the bolt.  A soft face would help and work nicely, however.  Also, if you put a groove about 3/4 up the main bolt part - the part where the foward shaft end connects to - you could position the front bolt stop further up requiring a shorter shaft where the rear stopper connects to - less reciprocating(sp.) mass and less power needed.  For clarification - the front stop would be gliding into the front bolt area on its way back, but the grove it fits into would end with about 1/4 of the material left before the ball pushing surface.

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black = hot, white = neutral in my case, sry, the only time you put power to white is when running a switch leg from the light to the switch when the feed is in the light or 3 way/4way or something similar, and in that case the wire must be recolored

wire a house and tell the inspector you used black as the neutral



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DsXz, I hope you realize that usually the negative (cathode) has the black wire.  And then I hope you also realize that electrons flow from the negative to the positive.
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100 milliamps across the heart will kill you, I should say.
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