Which gun should i buy with $600-800?

I would reccomend looking for a used Ion. You can find decently upped ones for $200-300. This save you money for a HPA tank and a faster hopper. Once those are out of the way, you can add whatever you like to it.

You may want to check out some otehr guns like a Timmy or a Matrix.

Do you already have tank/hopper, or does that also need to go into that budget?

No nitro as in Co2 only?

Or, me thinking you're new because of the tank and hopper coming with the gun comment, you think Nitro is different than HPA?

They won't be supplying CO2 for free after you buy your own gun.  Most places, CO2 is only "free" for rental guns.

Here's my recommendation.  Either buy package A or B:

A:  Tippmann 98, 12V Revvy, 20oz CO2 tank, Ceramic/Bigshot barrel, VForce mask

B:   SP Ion, 68/4500 HPA tank, Eggo/HALO, All American barrel, VForce mask

Package A will run you $200-$250.  Package B will cost $600ish.

I'm guessing you haven't played a lot of paintball, and you obviously don't know a lot about paintball equipment.  Package A is cheap yet solid, and will introduce you to paintball equipment with easy stuff.  Package B is much higher performance, but will also require you to understand a little more about how stuff works.  And, of course, it costs a lot more.

It comes back to the nitro.

All of the guns you are talking about REQUIRE an air tank.  Air tanks are roughly $200.  Those guns also REQUIRE fast hoppers - Eggo II at a minimum (you could play with a Revvy, but then you won't get the gun's full potential).  Good hoppers are $70-$120.

So that's $300 before you got to the gun.  Now you have $300-$500 left from your original budget.  And that's before a new barrel.  Most good guns come with decent barrels, but you will probably still want to upgrade.  That's another $50+, or more if you want a kit.

In that range, you can get almost anything if you buy used.  DM's, Angels, E-Cockers, whatever.

If you want new, then your choices are a bit more limited, since the truly high-end guns are more than that.  Ion, Mini, PMR...

Edited by Clark Kent - 30 March 2007 at 5:42pm

i dont need anything other than the basic marker yet so what would the best basic marker be?

edit- i dont want to get c02 because nitro costs more (lol im not that focused on the temporary items, and if c02 works, then its good lol - besides, i got a couple friends that work on a couple courses so they will fill my tank up for free lol)


Edited by Hawaianhamster - 30 March 2007 at 7:08pm

ok some of the companies supply you with lifetime warranty and free upgrades, will i get those benefits if i go buy the guns used?

Yeah, no doubt, what possible upgrades are they going to offer? new gun models?

i was using the lifetime warranty from here
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/528/
yes, i know that is from a company, but as you can see (and hopefully understand) that it was one of the first things that pop into my head because it was just so awesome. and also, multiple companies allow free upgrades, not new parts, no.. just upgrades (for example, for all you example people out there - a company recently added on to the same product that you have, but didn't got because you bought the gun at an earlier date.)

just because people dont spend money for loads of guns doesn't mean people should treat them like dumbasses. as in yeah, you can make assumptions to go about saying they are probably new to the game, but saying things like this is just what you may call flaming -

"Are you on crack? None of your responses have made any sense."
which was in response to -

"ok some of the companies supply you with lifetime warranty and free upgrades, will i get those benefits if i go buy the guns used?"
I don't see any major grammatical mistakes except maybe i could have capitalized or used a conjunction such as 'upgrades, but will i get those', but i was mostly using a mix of talking irl with text ;)

what i'm basically summarizing here is that i would rather not turn this topic to a topic of pointless arguments, but to keep it constructive.

commander, they may have HP, i just never got around to ask them so that is the reason - pardon my ignorance. i know people have given me packages for me to think about, which i am deeply thankful of for their time and patience, but not a lot of them suit me, since i wanted a medium-high end marker that is $700-800 just by itself, I'll focus on upgrades/tank/hopper later. sorry if i forgot to mention that little part lol

lol no sry, i dont need a low end atm since i've used tippmanns before (even when they aren't upgraded as much as that lol), i just need the high end marker by itself with little or none upgrades that costs around 600-800 dollars and ill add on later which will probably end up making the total cost over 1k