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netramakin
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Posted: 20 April 2007 at 7:20pm |
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carl_the_sniper
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Best thread ever Honestly, you take the best deal you can find. (a deal doesn't just have to mean cash) |
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Clark Kent
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I can certainly agree with that. Many of the inefficiencies I see give me a headache. But people that own/operate paintball fields tend not to be high-falutin' businessmen - they are just paintballers that seriously love their hobby. If paintball catches on to where Wal-Mart starts operating fields behind their stores, you'll see some serious increases in efficiencies. |
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Justice
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When are you going to realize paintball shops and fields do not make alot of money selling gear and what not. It's all about the paint, ask any store and or field owner and they will tell you that. Put it this way, IMO if you call yourself a paintballer you should be supporting your local stores unless they are complete jack bags. Making money is the bottom line for any business and again as stated above they make money from selling paint. |
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Commander_Cool
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Okay now I understand what you were refering to, and I concur. Perhaps saying the business model is flawed was incorrect. I suppose it is better to say the inability of ownership to adapt the FPO model, set prices well, or create a new business model that would allow them to stay competitive or turn a profit that is the issue. The field paint maintains the facility and we make very little money off of paintball argument comes into play. Mainly I feel many of fields are run inefficiently. Edited by Commander_Cool - 20 April 2007 at 1:31am |
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Commander_Cool
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Regardless, lets agree to stop arguing over a trivial matter. In addition do you plan on going to the PBLI Big Game in Coram, NY? |
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netramakin
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Yes, I did. What's your point?
Yes, you did. What's your point?
Not at my local store.
Um, which is exactly what I said.
So I should not support the field/store so that the one that "survives" will be more efficient. Another interesting view of your master plan. I think I'll keep supporting them so I can keep both around, thanks.
So now you know my thought process? Wow, do you work for the Psychic Friends Network? Could you get me Dionne Warwick's autograph?
The wisdom keeps flowing. I said minus shipping and just because your local shop sucks doesn't mean they all do. I'm not stupid. If I see my local shop overpricing, I won't buy. Most people won't. I never said buy at your local shop at all costs.
Mine comes pretty close (again, see my previous post). And guess what? If I need something right away, like on a game day, I'll have an option. Tell you what? Why don't we agree to disagree? Don't support your local field. I'll keep supporting mine in case you need some place to play when your local, inefficient field closes its doors. |
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Commander_Cool
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Um, you responded to my comment with a sarcastic post. Sarcasm aside, I commented on the points you made, that: a) mark ups at local fields are so small it i negligable. b) that if we stop buying from local shops, we wont have any places to play. Both points I countered, although I might have started off rather condescending. I also did not realize you said action village earlier (although it does not change my opinion of you later comment). a) mark up is more than you stated in addition, i was referencing the thought process behind the sarcastic and ill-concieved comment, not the post itself. As for my $20 dollar difference... shipping is significantly less than $20, and for college students or younger players saving money is important. Also most local shops can't meet internet pricing and won't try to. That is why they include perks like service or field memberships into their marker sales. |
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Clark Kent
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Different products have different margins. The goal is to maximize overall profit, not profit on any particular range of products. McDonalds basically gives their hamburgers away, but they make a killing on fries and soda. Adobe gives away the Acrobat reader, to sell more copies of their fancier products. In order to charge less for paint, a field would have to charge more for admission, or air, or chips/drinks, or whatever. And while you might be willing to pay $50 to play BYOP, most people, apparently, would rather buy field paint. Not to mention, of course, that fields have more carrying costs for paint inventory than stores, and that has to be accounted for somehow. And your general statement that taking "20-30 dollars" off each customer should somehow automatically be enough to survive is just goofy. If the business model were as flawed as you imply, then competition would have developed a better model by now, and that model would be winning. Is a better model possible? Probably, and maybe we shall see it soon. But the FPO model isn't "flawed". |
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Commander_Cool
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How do you figure? Someone who says after doing my forum research, which can imply he read posts on this forum, supported by a specific manufacturer, and frequented by owners of markers made by said manufacturers, has biased information. It thereby only makes sense to get opinions and information in possible markers from other locations, which might have a bias, but at the very least will present more options and a more varied opinion. That is just logical, and I suggested to possible websites he could look into before spending $200.
As for my comments on markers, both WGP and ICD make nice markers, although ICD markers are rather under rated. I suggested he look into them because they are in the same price range, and will perform better than the A-5. They are however more complicated and require more maintenance than the A-5. However, anyone that is literate should be able to figure out how to use and maintain markers from those companies, although I concede they might not be the best choice for a new player, he should investigate all his options, b researching outside of the tippmann forum. |
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Justice
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You give the worst advice. Go away. |
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netramakin
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You're going to tear apart a sarcastic one-liner? I think we're all learning who the childish one is.
You're so much smarter than I.
It was a general statement in response to your general statement:
Obviously a 5% - 10% markup only, as I stated, wouldn't keep a shop in business.
More brilliance
I never said that.
Yeah, higher ideals are dumb.
What I've bought from Action Village: Tippmann A-5 - $199 (0%)
AV - 65.00 minus shipping
Note that I suggested Action Village, too. I just said support your local shop if it's worth it.
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Commander_Cool
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I am going to say,... I wouldn't base my purchasing decisions on the comments left on a manufacturer's forum.
I suggest looking into ICD guns, and WGP Autocockers. |
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Commander_Cool
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Could buy them used on pnation....or get scammed on pbnation....you have a fairly good shot at either if you arent cautious.
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jjclown23
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Ebay? Im sure somebody is selling a nice modded out A-5 for cheap.
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Commander_Cool
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I know they generally come in boxes, but I thought Sports Authority sold them in plastic?
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what^^?? The packaging for a brand new a-5 is a box with foam in the inside.
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markfromSC
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Does the Stock A-5 come in a box or plastic
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Justice
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Yep I agree except with the ripped off part. There are some shotty owners out there. Good stores will match internet pricing. So gather a list of 3 places online prices and then walk into the store. |
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Rock Slide
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I second trying Countypaintball.
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