Westboro Baptist Church to pay $10.9 mil.

We should infect them with AIDS.

Its people like that who give religion a bad name.

I don't feel bad about this bankrupting them.

They had to have forseen it happening someday.

Clearly we need legislation to stop frivolous lawsuits and outrageous jury awards of punitive damages.

Agreed, I like the fact that they're getting one hell of a smack in the jaw, but if you're going to punish groups whose antics are a 'circus of hate' why then aren't organizations like the KKK being slapped with similar fines?

What Westborough does is disgusting, sick, and blatantly moronic....but they don't commit violent crimes, and they are working within their legal freedoms. HOW they exercize those rights is more of the question than 'are they?'

 

High Voltage wrote: We should infect them with AIDS.

Make sure it's the gay AIDS. Then that'll really make them happy!

TREASON!

 

sporx wrote: that's one of many reasons why i'm agnostic. "god" wouldn't want people to treat other people like that. even if being gay is a "sin". times change and people need to deal with it. it's the same thing with race as well. there's no need to judge people by their color, clothes, religion, or sexuality. i judge people by their behavior.

I don't believe this should be one of the reasons as to why you're agnostic.  The excessive majority of mainstream churches believe in the ideals you have; you can't take places like this as a large representation.  They are far misguided in their opinions, and obviously many people in religions agree with you (as the $10,000,000 goes to show).

I am also agnostic.  I have a Catholic upbringing, and even go to confirmation classes as well as a Catholic high school.  Its mostly because I base most of my beliefs in things I experience and logic, while believing in various philosophies.  The reason why I am not an atheist is because I have found many things in my life and in those around me that I can not explain by experience or logic, and so I chose to believe in a higher power.  Some would call it universal powers, etc.., but I do believe that there could easily be something more.

It's about time they get the treatment they deserve.

Yes, they are acting within the limits of the law, but one could argue that the targets of the protesting are emotionally scarred as a result. I know that if someone I loved was protested like that after his/her death, I would be devastated at the very thought of WBC for the next few years of my life, and that pain would be difficult to get over.

It's emotional trauma that they are looking to cause, and that alone is enough to bring up physical problems in people. Causing short term problems for other people is still a punishable offense (depending on what you do), so this is not exactly an unconstitutional move by the court that carried on the lawsuit.

I hate to defend the KKK, but at least they don't protest at the funerals of non-whites, and actually seek permits before they have their rallies. Their aim is nearly as bad, but it is nothing compared to what WBC does weekly.

Yomillio wrote: TREASON!   sporx wrote: that's one of many reasons why i'm agnostic. "god" wouldn't want people to treat other people like that. even if being gay is a "sin". times change and people need to deal with it. it's the same thing with race as well. there's no need to judge people by their color, clothes, religion, or sexuality. i judge people by their behavior. I don't believe this should be one of the reasons as to why you're agnostic.  The excessive majority of mainstream churches believe in the ideals you have; you can't take places like this as a large representation.  They are far misguided in their opinions, and obviously many people in religions agree with you (as the $10,000,000 goes to show). I am also agnostic.  I have a Catholic upbringing, and even go to confirmation classes as well as a Catholic high school.  Its mostly because I base most of my beliefs in things I experience and logic, while believing in various philosophies.  The reason why I am not an atheist is because I have found many things in my life and in those around me that I can not explain by experience or logic, and so I chose to believe in a higher power.  Some would call it universal powers, etc.., but I do believe that there could easily be something more.

Sporx, Yomillo is right, the ideas of specific religions shouldn't turn you away from your belief in a higher power. As nonexistent as the evidence is, it's still not illogical to believe in the existence of a deity provided you can define your idea of what that deity is and the reason for its existence. It's still faith, but not to the extreme level that all the world's religions take it.

Yomillo, agnosticism classifies those people that cannot say they believe there is a god(s) or not. If you can say you believe in a deity outside of religion, then it's called Deism/Theism.


Edited by Tolgak - 01 November 2007 at 5:42pm

Kristofer wrote: reifidom wrote: I'd use the money to hire Blackwater as security at other soldier's funerals. I like that idea, but I'd do it for free if I was granted immunity for my actions.

Tolgak wrote: It's about time they get the treatment they deserve.Yes, they are acting within the limits of the law, but one could argue that the targets of the protesting are emotionally scarred as a result. I know that if someone I loved was protested like that after his/her death, I would be devastated at the very thought of WBC for the next few years of my life, and that pain would be difficult to get over.It's emotional trauma that they are looking to cause, and that alone is enough to bring up physical problems in people. Causing short term problems for other people is still a punishable offense (depending on what you do), so this is not exactly an unconstitutional move by the court that carried on the lawsuit.I hate to defend the KKK, but at least they don't protest at the funerals of non-whites, and actually seek permits before they have their rallies. Their aim is nearly as bad, but it is nothing compared to what WBC does weekly. Yomillio wrote: sporx wrote: that's one of many reasons why i'm agnostic. "god" wouldn't want people to treat other people like that. even if being gay is a "sin". times change and people need to deal with it. it's the same thing with race as well. there's no need to judge people by their color, clothes, religion, or sexuality. i judge people by their behavior. I don't believe this should be one of the reasons as to why you're agnostic.  The excessive majority of mainstream churches believe in the ideals you have; you can't take places like this as a large representation.  They are far misguided in their opinions, and obviously many people in religions agree with you (as the $10,000,000 goes to show). I am also agnostic.  I have a Catholic upbringing, and even go to confirmation classes as well as a Catholic high school.  Its mostly because I base most of my beliefs in things I experience and logic, while believing in various philosophies.  The reason why I am not an atheist is because I have found many things in my life and in those around me that I can not explain by experience or logic, and so I chose to believe in a higher power.  Some would call it universal powers, etc.., but I do believe that there could easily be something more. Sporx, Yomillo is right, the ideas of specific religions shouldn't turn you away from your belief in a higher power. As nonexistent as the evidence is, it's still not illogical to believe in the existence of a deity provided you can define your idea of what that deity is and the reason for its existence. It's still faith, but not to the extreme level that all the world's religions take it.Yomillo, agnosticism classifies those people that cannot say they believe there is a god(s) or not. If you can say you believe in a deity outside of religion, then it's called Deism/Theism.

i came from a methodist and baptist upbringing. Yeah, what they did doesn't just turn my beliefs of a higher power. I was just trying to say that it was one reason why I choose to be agnostic. I just can't believe that these people that claim to follow the book would attack gay people out of judgement. If there is a god then I doubt he would want people that claim his religion to treat people the way they did and use the whole "God Hates You - You're going to Hell because You're gay" crutch. People perform different sins everyday. even good hearted christians sin. and to have homophobs shoot gay people down like that is pathletic. there's no bragging rights there whatsoever. That was one of my reasons that I was trying to get across.