what is the best high end

Angel G7 Fly is the most beautiful popular production paintball gun IMO. When I say popular production, I'm excluding PL markers.

The basic principle of the internal combustion engine is the same as it has always been, as has the ram driven poppet design. Yes, either principle can be "tweaked" or "enhanced" but the overriding idea is the same.

As for the perceived reliability of the Angel platform, I am going to take issue with that. I don't know what models you have used, but either you got lemons or you suck at keeping things running (which I hate to even mention, because I know you're competent.) Angels are, as you say, ram driven poppets just like the Ego and Cyborg, among others. How you can recommend the Borg and diss the Angel in the same breath is beyond me, because they both operate the same way. The only real difference is that the solenoid in the Cyborg and Ego is fed via plastic tube airlines from the LPR, whereas the Angel uses and always has used airlines milled and drilled into the body. The ram is directly fed via the noid, and the noid is directly fed via a lengthwise air passge from the LPR (except for the A1, whose LPR vents directly to the noid which vents directly to the ram.) If anything, the Cyborg/Ego/Timmy designs are LESS reliable because those lines can and do blow out or act stupid for no reason.

I have had my Fly for three years. The problems that I've had with it, while few, were user error (ram adjusted wrong) and I can't even fathom how you could screw these things up. Granted, the A1 is not the finest Angel that has ever been produced. Yet again, we come back to your whole stance on how things should be "new hat" as it were, because the A1 is markedly different from the G7 generation that preceded it. As said earlier, the A1's LPR feeds the noid directly, so the overall layout of the gun is different now. The valve system is completely different, as are the detents and board. At launch, there were a myriad of issues (which is to be expected when the design has changed os dramatically) but now they are pretty solid guns. I would rather shoot a G7/Fly/Gat/Speed, but for the love of christ you need to give these guns some credit. There's a new magnetic valve ocming out for the A1 here pretty soon, and it is already delivering Cyborg level efficiency for the people testing them.

We'll see.

thejudge wrote: you are all talking too rich for my blood.  I am down with my A5 as my highest end gun lol.

I know what you're saying. Everybody around here has upgraded to high-end guns and I'm still using the same A-5 I've had since 2004. I figure the ability to shoot 16 bps rather than 13 (I am one of the slowest trigger walkers I know) and reduced weight and length isn't really worth dropping $300 or more on.

its just the rep that noobs flock to angels and what ive heard about reliability.  its between the ego 08 and new cyborg.  ive owned 6 a5's and still have 1, there great, but just lack in a bit, plus im looking more towards light, tight, accurate and fast. so no one likes the shockers? thought more people would have been defending them, most popular high end at the feilds i go to.

p_p_b_h wrote: personally i didnt list an angel because ive seen many at my feild use them, generally they get eaten or break down. im still leaning toward on ego 08 or an sl74, ive never used or seen a droid in action, but ill look into it.

I didn't see this well thought-out gem of a post until now. I'm getting a little slow to the punch, so if you felt like you had gotten away with your idiocy then I'm sorry to let you down.

You're just like every other ill-informed Angel hater out there.

At least tallen took the initiative to write out more than "weel i r scene meh nee borked ones at teh feelds, so they cleerly sux!!!" And what a big surprise, you bearhug Egos in the same breath.