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ThatGuitarGuy
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Wow. Why did I never think of that? "Hey, yeah, Al Qaeda? Can I ask where Bin Ladin is, and can you give me 3 hours to get there before you move him? I'm trying to snipe him unmolested, and I promise not to shoot anyone until the "war" has started" |
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Mack
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It's the tactical moving that really generates heat. You should ask the insurgents where they're going to be and if you could go out 20 minutes early as long you promise not to shoot anyone until hostilities start. That way, you could just walk into position unmolested and not put on the ghillie until it was actually needed. |
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ThatGuitarGuy
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Wow. I wish that worked in real life. Me:"No sir, I would rather not wear my ghillie on this stalk." CO: "Why not Sgt.?" Me: "Well sir, it's too hot in the desert. I would prefer to wear it during the winter" |
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Mack
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Oh, I guess I won't then. (The thought of seeing myself in the mirror as I take the picture makes me cringe anyway.)
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The Guy
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Only if you want my to commit sepoku
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Mack
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I can e-mail a pic if you want. |
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aceatc
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Basically
90% of the time - Ghillie isn't needed. Other 10%- In special terrains= Very large area and/or very dense area of vegetation. If I am kneeling in my camo and someone runs by and shoots me... poo. If I am kneeling in a ghillie and someone runs by me and keeps on running... the suit would be nice to have. Also, you can fire at long range. Although that takes a lot of practice to shoot that far and be accurate and I don't got that kinda time. Really it's like that one piece of fun gear that you use every once in a while. Nothing more, nothing less. Edited by aceatc - 14 April 2008 at 3:42pm |
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The Guy
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ah ah ah mental image!!!!! get it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Mack
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MarcoAzorean
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Yup! When we use the word "sniper" all ppl tend to bend noses and jump on u! Ah! Ah!
Well i refer always to some of the tasks snipers do in real life! Not being a sniper as real snipers go in paintball cause all markers shoot about the same distance! I used it cause of the guillie suite! Off course the efectiveness of the guillie dependes on the camp rules and use of this players by a team! He can be a good element or just a problem or waste of time! Woodsball is about normally playing in the woods, and if u can make ppl dont see u but u see then, then u got the advantage over then! We like to call our friend a "marksman" cause thats probrably the closest real life counterpart that we can relate to! But u cant deny that a guy with a guillie suit, a marker with a long barrel and a tac cap of 50 balls on it, on a position taking out ppl from other team or stalling then on a certain part of the game area resembles a sniper!... Marco |
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Mack
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Edited by Mack - 13 April 2008 at 10:00pm |
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carl_the_sniper
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A..HA...A...HA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
Ghillie suits! 18 Inch Barrels!! Snipers!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sniper debate time! Thanks man, it's been so long since we've had a good sniper debate. I'll leave it up to smarter and greater men to explain. Edited by carl_the_sniper - 13 April 2008 at 7:13pm |
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MarcoAzorean
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Guillie Suits if well prepared and used can be a big element in a game!
Off course ppl who use then have to be patiente and serious players, cause normally if u sense a hit your out, almost all playing fields use this rule! Ppl who use then are a breed apart from other players! Its not that ppl have a sniper wanna be wish, but they do operate alot as one! I also use this type of game alot, never used a guillie suit cause they are expensive! But i got a teammate who wears one and as used it very effectivly in game! Someone said here that using it is worthless to the teamplay! Well i cant disagree more! I give u a example among others, of a game we did in a Tournament we have here that my team organizes, the Mil-Sim Circuit of Terceira Island (Its in the Atlantic, part of Portugal, the Azores Islands). We set him up on our right flank all tuged in among the vegetation, and i set myself up on the left flank with a A5 M82A1 18" barrel waiting for our opponents, while our team engaged and delayed the opfor... Well cause he was there hidding almost invisible to the opfor, he let then pass by him before he turned and started picking then off one by one! Also before he started to fire he was relaying to us by radio how many were they, and where they were so we could prepare our defense well, the opfor numbers were 20, he got 6 of then and never was eliminated from the game! Hes contribution for the team defense efforts was crucial for us to win the game! Another example, is a game we did in the woods where we had to conquer some papers in a house that was well defended, we had a rule that the sniper could go in the field at the same time as opfor and then we would enter 20 minutes after, but he couldnt engage anyone until the game start! Well he relayed by radio all opfor positions, numbers and defenses enabling us to maximize our attack and winning the game, he took part in the attack taking several opfor out! Guillie suits have drawbacks off-course, he uses then in the winter, in the summer no, cause its too hot! But if u know how to use it and have the pacience u can be one of or probrably the most important element in your woodsball team! We take cammo seriously, all our team as their own cammo, we dont use all the same, we leave to team members to choose the cammo they like most! Cammo helps alot to give u the extra seconds u need to take a opfor out! If u can see him before he sees u u probrably will get em... Marco |
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aceatc
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I've only seen a televised history about snipers ( The history channel ) and watched what the British Royal Marines have to go through to become a working sniper. They do use burlap, but of course they have to use vegetation and then repeatitly change that vegitation as the foliage in the terrain changes.
That makes sense, but I'm sure they don't tell you everything on T.V. Edited by aceatc - 12 April 2008 at 11:35pm |
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TL;DR Is it true that snipers in the military actually make their ghillie suits at the place they are at? Say they are going to a grassy field. They quickly make a very effective suit out of the grass. Basically all natural. Edited by RoboCop - 12 April 2008 at 10:04pm |
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WOW, i havn't checked up on this in a while, glad to see the controversy is still alive. A coupe people have hit on the main point of the suit. in dense woods, with players who observe the silent kill rule, these can work great. generally i walk onto the feild with it in a small bag. ONLY when i am out of site do i put it on, and then i use if for the first game. i used it recently and got two guys out right away. they didn't even know where it came from until i waved to them. after that game i took it off, becuase they were all spooked over it, and where now trying to find it. so i just set it up over some brush, and waited until they open up on it. then i shot them.
i have done this exact scenario about 3 times now, and it's worked well. maybe this sounds crappy to you pros, but it has been great fun for me. |
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ThatGuitarGuy
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Umm. That's okay, I'll just counter that smoke bomb with a flash bang, and my patented paintball mortar.
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The Guy
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i'm still gonna take you out with a smoke bomb.
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ThatGuitarGuy
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So you're not making a "ghillie" in the true sense of the word. You made yourselves a hunting blind.
If I were you, I would definitely take my advice on movement and tactics. They have to be somewhat sound, as I am still alive. |
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aceatc
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When I'm just around friends we play with our own rules and that's where the hit and run stuff comes into play.
In the forest where we mostly play a single person may only be able to see maybe 50 yards ahead (at best!). The other 95% of the time everything is very dense and you mainly focus on trying to walk through the forest and not fall over. This makes you look at the forest floor a lot and even though a ghillie is used for long distance, it gives us the advantage of being dangerously close to someone without being seen. At least that's what we construct our ghillies for. Forest is so dense that you could be 15 yards away in camo and not be seen. For us, the ghillie is just to get a little closer. Sure is a workout running in the forest all day trying to trip on a branch and brake your leg :-) |
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