home defense question.

Bunkered wrote: Which is why you lock them in a gun-safe that's bolted to the floor.

Oh I agree completely. The problem is the amount of gun owners in America that actually do that.

brihard wrote: A gun should not be your one and only defensive measure in a house-

Not just that, but a gun is by far one of the less effective measures of home defense when you compare it to other preventative measures. This is simply because there are few situations where a gun will really be the deciding factor. It is completely situational. It would have to be a case where you are on one end of your home, and you have enough time to retrieve your firearm and load it, and then properly use it.

While situations where this is the case could very well arise, there are a ton of preventive measures that are much, much better than simply relying on a firearm to keep a home safe.

Like EE said, a loud alarm system with plenty of notification of the alarm outside the house is key. Keeping it well lit on the outside with simple, cheap motion detection lights prevents invisible entry. Strong locks on doors and visable locks on windows makes forced entry harder.

All of those are by far more effective than a gun.

Not to mention, more burglaries occur when the house is empty than when the owners are home, which means those guns you are getting have a bad chance of winding up in the hands of criminals and perpetuating the gun problem in America.

If you are going to get a firearm for home defense, nothing is better than a basic pump-action shotgun. The one thing that a shotgun has going for it over a pistol is the sound effect. The cocking of a pump-action shotgun is usually going to be enough for an intruder to think "Hey, maybe this is not such a good idea."



Edited by Man Bites Dog - 06 April 2008 at 2:14pm

chaibill wrote: Just Use a good security system.  Maybe set up some sort of "strong room" in your house.  Or set up your master bed room with a steel door that looks like wood.  If you have small children and they see you kill some one that might be really bad for them psychologically.  Maybe even your self.  And most burglars will come in when you are not home so they will take all your nice new guns and maybe kill some one with them at a later time.  And with that new idea to serial number stamp the cartage when fired you might be blamed in a civil case just for  owning a fire arm and letting it get stolen.  Then you can sew your security provider for not getting the police there fast enough and they can sew the police for not  responding fast enough.

Exactly. For most people, there are better options than a gun.

tallen702 wrote: .357, that's the Springfield G.I.45 milspec, I know this as I own that very weapon.

Of course it's a .45 thats one of my favorite pistol rounds.... But it two will have no issue going through walls.

Judging by most of your comments on the matter, I hope NONE of you own guns.

Don't need more idiots running around with them.

haha yeah EE you are dead on about the restricted FID card for mace. i just buy mine online, or in new hampshire. i should get that card though. and my class A our CCP. just to have it. i wont be getting a pistol though.i'd like a .22 rifle to play with.


get this weapon for home defense...
SPringfield Armory

that was what i was getting at.

carl_the_sniper wrote: Or just come to Canada

why the hell would i do a thing like that?  becuase of your ignorantly liberal drinking laws?  your lack of resolve on the cuban trade embargo?  the only reason i can think of to move to canada is your acceptance of firearms for the purpose of defense in case the police are not sufficient.

carl_the_sniper wrote: tallen702 wrote: carl_the_sniper wrote: Riddle me this: If there is less response time in the country, that would mean there are less cops for a given area. If there are less cops in a given area, there will be less people in this given area. If there are less people, than there are less people to try and kill you in your sleep for no reason at all (That's why you need the gun rite? Or is it to protect yourself from the people breaking into your house that are often unarmed?) If there are less people to try and kill you in your sleep for no reason, than you are safer. If you are safer, why do you need a gun? Unless you live in the country part of the bronx. Statistically speaking, forced entries into homes are far greater per-capita in outlying suburbs and rural areas. It is far easier for a thief or assailant to enter a rural home due to less public notice given the population density of rural areas than it is in a more populous one. Response times in rural areas also tend to be far greater than urban/suburban ones. While most suburbs have city or county police units, rural areas tend to rely on sheriff-based services or the state police who are responsible for vast territorial jurisdictions with a significantly smaller force. I just doubt it happens enough to need a gun. And I don't think that a gun would be the proper response in 90% of situations anyways

That's like saying, "The chances of me crashing my car are so slim that I'm not going to wear my seatbelt."

sounds like a plan