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Mack
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Jesus isn't a gun nut.
Gosh darn, you anti-reliegious/anti-gun nuts are out of control. |
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reifidom
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I keep a handgun in my bedroom. The clip is elsewhere in my bedroom. Neither are hidden in conventional places. I can have them both in my hand, together, and ready to fire inside of fifteen seconds. No kids in the house, and we never have unattended guests.
If the need arises and I can't comfortably reach the gun and have it ready to go, I have no intention of indicating I even have one rather than elevating the situation. If it's to be lethal force I want to be the one to initiate it and without warning. If the outcome isn't as certain as I'm comfortable with then playing along is the best bet. I've had it out twice, both after hearing strange noises from the main floor. Both turned out to be nothing, but I did have a stranger come to our house shortly after we moved in and ring the bell, then, as I approached the door on the tile floor he quickly walked away and wouldn't answer my calls. It's hard to see if we're home from the front of the house as most of our interior living space is towards the back. I had the impression the guy was casing the house, trying to see if anybody would answer the door or if it was clear to come back. My layout is such that the only practical place to break in without an extension ladder would be the main floor or garage and with even slight warning I can have the pistol ready to go and be above and behind anybody coming up toward the bedrooms with a clear line of sight of the front door, foyer, and the entire upper hall. Edited by reifidom - 08 April 2008 at 2:57pm |
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jmac3
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That does not seem so hard to understand, but whatever. |
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Ceesman762
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Because you have no clue, do you?
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Innocence proves nothing
FUAC!!!!! |
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Ceesman762
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please explain. maybe just maybe I'll understand your view.
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Innocence proves nothing
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jmac3
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If he is worried about a break in, he should move.
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Ceesman762
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AHHHH! So crime does not follow you if you move to a "safer" neighborhood.
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Mack
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I'll explain for him. The concept is actually quite simple. If you live someplace where you feel endangered you should pack up your stuff and go elsewhere. It is up to you suffer the inconvenience of dislocating your family because the rights of the folks endangering you to not be shot by an irate homeowner while committing a felony take precedence over the rights of homeowner's to protect themselves and their families.
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Ceesman762
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So moving to a better neighborhood means no crime??
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FUAC!!!!! |
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jmac3
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Yeah, pretty much. I know you aren't agreeing though. |
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Da Hui
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Haven't had any use for it other than target shooting. I hope that doesn't ever change.
Ruger Security-Six .357 Magnum Edit: Its kept in an safe place. No little kid or guest to our house would ever find it or even be able to get it. Kept locked and secure. Edited by Da Hui - 08 April 2008 at 3:28pm |
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Ceesman762
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Yes, because no matter where you go, crime is going to be there in one form or another. if someone wants to break into your home for whatever it is to steal what you have, they are going to do it. Safe, secure neighborhoods don't exist. The only thing that makes neighborhoods safe are your neighbors watching out for you as well as you watching out for them. Where I live on Long Island, we have the east coast Beverely Hills, The Hamptons. a Bucks Deluxe neighborhood. Scum from the south shore and points west, still go to the Hamptons and do house break ins/home invasions all of the time in secure neighborhoods. Why move? be aware and alert and watch out for your neighbor because they will watch out for you.
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Kayback
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Because it's my fault I have nice things in my house that people will want to steal. Moving isn't always an option. With the house prices where I live there isn't any possibility for me getting a 3 bedroom, two bathroom house with a garden for anything near an affordable price. We've been here for years. We bought when the land prices were low, they are now sky high. A flat, FLAT that's two bedrooms, one bathroom, no garage is roughly the same price as we paid for this house. I can't afford to go elsewhere. Other people are in similar situations. Add onto that I have to live within easy travelling distance of my place of work, and because I work such odd hours there is no chance of taking public transport, I can't relocate. Besides, this is my home. Why should I give it up? I live in a nice safe, low crime area. However these are the sort of places that have home invasions with rape and murder. The chances of it happening are low, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. And I'm going to do everything in my power to fight it if it does happen. So "moving" is pretty much a bloody stupid thing to say. KBK |
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X-51
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I have to agree with ceesmen on this one, packing your stuff and hightailing it out of there doesn't mean that your destination is a utopia. Sterling Heights was voted in the top five safest cities in the nation a couple years back and still we managed to have a police killing occur later that very year.
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Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees?
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Ceesman762
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Thank You Kay, well put.
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X-51
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Kayback are you british?
Edited by X-51 - 08 April 2008 at 3:40pm |
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Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees?
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Mack
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I take it I didn't disguise my sarcasm well? |
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ive been reading along getting ideas just not posting.
sounds like il be getting a 12 guage or maybe a 410 and a 9mm or .45 pistol (after i go shoot a bunch and see which one i like best.) the neighborhood im moving too is a VERY nice neighborhood. i dont have to be afraid of drug dealers or "ghetto folk" like a few of the other neighborhoods we looked at. in a neighborhood where the houses range from 150k-220k drug dealers and random crime can be a threat. (violent crimes outside the home) in a neighborhood where the houses range from 300k-700k+ im more afraid of someone braking in. |
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jmac3
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First off, I wasn't being serious at all when I first posted it.
Second, Kay you said that you live in a safe, low crime area. If you live in a safe low crime area then why would you fell the need to arm yourself in case of a possible break in? I will look at statistics right now, but I'm willing to bet that most break ins occur when the homeowners are away. If you seriously feel there is a high chance of someone breaking into your home, or a high rate of crime then you should look into moving due to your own safety. I'm also willing to bet that most people breaking in aren't armed. They will probably also run at the sight of you, never mind the gun. Not to mention, if you are all safe gun owners like you claim to be then your guns will be locked in a safe, unloaded, and possibly a trigger lock. If someone broke into your home with intent to harm do you really think you would get your gun ready to shoot fast enough? They would probably get in silently and be in your room before you knew it. |
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