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    Posted: 04 September 2008 at 6:56pm

So, I was talking to my animation and multimedia teacher today in regards to Macs. He's an Apple fan, has a whole bunch of history with animation an multimedia and owns his own website developing company. I told him I wanted to be an animator when I get older, which involves a lot of applications, a lot of memory and a lot of hard drive space.

He actually suggested I go out and buy a full-on maxed out iMac.

- 1TB Serial ATA Drive
- 4 GB 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2 GB
- 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
- 8x double-layer SuperDrive
- NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS with 512MB memory

More than $2500 plus tax and Adobe Creative Suite...

That's a lot of money. I can afford the payment plan, but would it be worth it just because I can? I gotta say, that's some impressive stats.



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$2500 computer

or

$2500 in hookers and blow


Choose wisely.
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What programs do you want or need to run? If it is just the Adobe Creative Suite, you can get that for Windows, and build or buy a competitive computer for cheaper.
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It'll be obsolete within a year.
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Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

It'll be obsolete within a year.


Actually, it was obselete at least a year ago.

Sheish... you could buy a pc that is so much better for $2500.
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Very valid concern, of which I expressed.

I'm still debating building a PC. But I don't have the money in hand for that. A big thing is the payment plan. And a free iPod. :)

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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:



Sheish... you could buy a pc that is so much better for $2500.

Yeah. You could build a rig better then mine for 2500 bucks.

If you do want OSX, do a vanilla hackintosh build.
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and i paid......1500....
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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Very valid concern, of which I expressed.


I'm still debating building a PC. But I don't have the money in hand for that. A big thing is the payment plan. And a free iPod. :)



Step one: Get a Credit Card
Step Two: Build your computer using said Credit Card
Step Three: Automatic payment plan, especially when you get a "Zero Interest" card that has a 1 year introductory rate.
Step Four: Profit?
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if you dont have previous credit, forget about getting a
2500 limit.

also, since you arent going into the animating business
for 4 years, wait until then to buy your work computer.
for now you can just get by on whats cheap.
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

if you dont have previous credit, forget about getting a
2500 limit.

also, since you arent going into the animating business
for 4 years, wait until then to buy your work computer.
for now you can just get by on whats cheap.

Hackintosh FTW. I could put something together using the same components you listed for about a grand.
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Wow 

$2,500 for that hardware? What a scam. You could build that yourself for somewhere between half and 2/3 of that price.
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If your going the Mac route don't skimp out on an iMac, get a Mac pro, particularly because that system is crap for what your paying.

I would recommend at minimum 8 GBs of RAM with a decent Intel Quad Core.  The fact of the matter is multithreading is becoming popular finally, and these processors can be had for relatively cheap.  I'm not sure how well Mac pros allow upgrading but this route also offers some future-proofing.

Putting a full terabyte on one hard drive without a decent back-up solution strikes me as unwise. Whats more, you'll want good hard drive read/write speeds given that it will likely be your scratch disk as well.  If your serious about building a good computer, go the RAID route.  I personally prefer RAID 5 or RAID 6, although RAID 0+1 is very nice as well, not mention this will provide redundency.

Finally, you wnt to go into graphic design which means most likely you want a powerful rendering gpu, such as something from the Nvidia quadro line.  The 8800GS is not a good pick.

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Or you build buy a brand name PC, who will still offer financing and the such, and will sale you a PC for cheaper than the Mac.

People often rip on Dells, usually because they have experience with their $400 Inspiron or whatever, but their XPS, which is a "premium home" and office machine is a decent computer. Even if you bought the top of the line XPS, you'd have a comparable computer for about $1600.

Then you'd have the factory support and the big company financing, and you could buy an ipod and save over buying a Mac.
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You can get a 1Tb for around 150 i think. would that be an option for you just to get a smaller hard drive and a 1TB extra?

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- 24" display
- 3.06GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
- 2GB memory
- 500GB hard drive
- 8x double-layer SuperDrive
- NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS with 512MB memory

$2,059 or as low as $49 a month and a free iPod Touch or Nano.

This is their basic top-o'-the-line iMac. $500 cheaper and still nice. I have to say, I really like Macs. The problem with the MacPro, is I'd still have to purchase a monitor, and a good one isn't cheap. That's the thing with iMacs, their monitor is built in.

I'm seriously about to do it...

 

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I still say hackintosh.

You could do a vanilla OSx86 build with specs alot better than those for under a grand.

I would do the following:

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty= $150
Processor: Core 2 Quad q6600= $180
Ram: Anything GeIL G.Skill, or Mushkin 4gb of DDR2 800 will run you about $80
Video Card: Personally I would go with an ATI HD48** series card, but I don't know if you can run OSx86 on those yet. So to play it safe, go with the 8800GT.= $110
DVD Drive: about $40
500 Gb HDD: $100
Case+PSU: about $100

Total cost: $760 bucks

A 24" monitor will run you about $350.

So, even with a 24" monitor you are still looking at only $1100 for a good system if you do it yourself, and it should run OSX fine. Talk to Rfuilrez, he is the hackintosh king.

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ehhhh.... I steer clear of macs due to high hardware and repair costs. Getting a new MoBo and upgrading your processor down the line is much easier and cheaper when you've got a PC. With a Mac, you usually just wind up buying a whole new computer at premium prices all over again. Also, Mac's OS variants cost a lot to upgrade, what they do between their OS versions are basically like what MS does for free with their service packs.
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Well, another huge factor right now is this: I've got $300 to my name. I can wait for weeks to have a decent PC, at about enough money each week to purchase a decent part, or I can finance a Mac to have and use now.

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