Medical Marijuana

Glassjaw wrote: Cannabis has a demonstrated ability to               improve mobility and reduce morning stiffness and inflammation.                Research has also shown that patients are able to reduce their usage of potentially harmful Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) when using cannabis as an adjunct therapy."

Just FYI, that's basically saying it's on par with Acetaminophen and Acetylsalicylic acid, just without the GI bleeds caused by Acetaminophen.



I'll have to check on the alzheimers part-- that's the first I've heard of it... but the fact that it came from a pro-legalization website gives me doubts. Can you find me a more neutral website?







As for obnoxious

1) Contribute to the thread in other ways then just "You're wrong because you are".

2) Zophran is a 5-HT3 antagonists, and quite good at what it is intended to do.

Edited by Linus - 31 March 2009 at 11:42pm

Linus wrote: Glass, Reason I wrote in excess for alcohol is because alcohol, not in excess, is good for your health, as proven over and over again by people much smarter then you and I, and have an MD attached to their name. Marijuana in ANY amount, adds no known health benefits. Nausea inhibitor =/= health benefit. "The major active constitutent of the plant Cannabis sativa (marijuana), THC, and a variety of natural and synthetic cannabinoids have been shown to possess... anti-inflammatory activities... Results indicate that the endogenous cannabinoid system represents a promising therapeutic target for the treatment of intestinal disease conditions characterized by excessive inflammatory responses." Apr. 2004 - Journal of Clinical Investigation  "Cannabis has a demonstrated ability to improve mobility and reduce morning stiffness and inflammation. Research has also shown that patients are able to reduce their usage of potentially harmful Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) when using cannabis as an adjunct therapy." 2005 - Americans for Safe Access (ASA)  "Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are important in the pathology of AD [Alzheimer's disease] and that cannabinoids succeed in preventing the neurodegenerative process occurring in the disease."  Feb. 23, 2005 - Maria L. de Ceballos, PhD  If you want a nausea inhibitor, get Ondansetron, as it has VERY few side effects and contraindications. As for why I brought up alcohol vs marijuana numbers is many people, including a few in this thread, tout the fact at how dangerous alcohol is. If something is used more, you're going to have more instances of something bad going on. That is the only thing I implied by that statement. I don't deny that alcohol is dangerous, but so is nitroglycerin, and the health benefits are indisputable.

Linus wrote: What do I call that? I call calling an immature person out on his rudeness. Here's the thing; Just because you don't agree with my view does not mean I'm uninformed on the subject matter. In a perfect world, I need not give a basis for my reason for it to be illegal. If my view is it should be, that should be sufficient for my opinion. I'm not a lawyer, I don't have to state why, just so. LOLWUT? In reality, you need a "legit basis" so you can argue it to your hearts content. As I have stated, I'm not against medicinal marijuana, but there ARE legal alternatives. That makes Marijuana any less legitimate from a non legal standpoint? What I am against is recreational use of marijuana. It takes 4 seconds from the first puff for it to take effect on the users brain 4 seconds? Find me some science for that outrageous claim.. alcohol is much longer then that. Marijuana impairs judgment, same as alchol. Not nearly as much.  Marijuana causes damage to someones body, same as alcohol in excess. What damages does marijuana cause? Smoke cannot be part of your argument. Marijuana causes munchies, alcohol goes good with nachos. Was that supposed to be a serious statement? Are there problems with alcohol? Hell yea, just like there are with marijuana... but a much larger percentage of the world uses alcohol, so of course problems with alcohol are going to be overly visible as opposed to an illegal drug that people try to hide. I don't see it being too hard to find problems with crack/cocaine or heroin. Those users also try to hide it.

What do I call that? I call calling an immature person out on his rudeness.


Here's the thing;

Just because you don't agree with my view does not mean I'm uninformed on the subject matter.


In a perfect world, I need not give a basis for my reason for it to be illegal. If my view is it should be, that should be sufficient for my opinion. I'm not a lawyer, I don't have to state why, just so.

In reality, you need a "legit basis" so you can argue it to your hearts content.




As I have stated, I'm not against medicinal marijuana, but there ARE legal alternatives. What I am against is recreational use of marijuana. It takes 4 seconds from the first puff for it to take effect on the users brain.. alcohol is much longer then that. Marijuana impairs judgment, same as alchol. Marijuana causes damage to someones body, same as alcohol in excess. Marijuana causes munchies, alcohol goes good with nachos. Are there problems with alcohol? Hell yea, just like there are with marijuana... but a much larger percentage of the world uses alcohol, so of course problems with alcohol are going to be overly visible as opposed to an illegal drug that people try to hide.

Alright, a very very valid point has been brought to the table. I call a time out for Linus to watch either Grass, or The Union, or both. Ladies choice

That will even the playing field. Linus, feel free to submit a documentary for the other side to watch too.

choopie911 wrote: I was going to say something, but I couldn't think of something that wouldn't make it look like I was on your side

C'mon, tell me how you REALLY feel about me!   

Glassjaw wrote: choopie911 wrote: Come on man.... Now thats exactly how to get this locked. Unnecessary roughness. This whole thread has been full of people bashing the concept of marijuana being legal mainly due to it's legality when they have even not the slightest clue as to why it's illegal. I find that to be quite ill-informed, or ignorant, if you will.

As is people bashing people for their beliefs. Whether you agree with them or not doesn't matter, the minute you do a personal attack, when no one else in 15 pages had, YOU are the wrong one. Bashing a concept is not the same as bashing a person.

Edited by Linus - 31 March 2009 at 10:47pm

Come on man.... Now thats exactly how to get this locked. Unnecessary roughness.

Edited by choopie911 - 31 March 2009 at 10:42pm

I was going to say something, but I couldn't think of something that wouldn't make it look like I was on your side

Post deleted because I can't play nice with others.


Edited by Reb Cpl - 01 April 2009 at 6:39am

You just KNOW that if they choose to tax marijuana that someone will have a hissy fit saying they are taxing it too high for the poor smokers.