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    Posted: 27 January 2011 at 6:49am
Actually I'm a redneck with a soldering iron.

As most of you already know my daily CCW is a Glock 26. Now the Glock 26 is a fantastic little weapon, however it as a coulpe of draw backs. One being is is a little weapon. If i could do it again I'd go with a Glock 19 and probably cut the handle down a bit.

But alas, due to budgetary constraints, as well as local gun laws, I can't do that. So, how to make the Glock 26 a better weapon?

Well if you are Glock, you release the Glock 26, Gen 4


If you are a poor starving African, you modify it yourself.




The original Glock frame is very very slick. It has some very minor bumps on the side pannels, and some almost understated chekering on the front and back strap. When your hands get a little sweaty, as happens in the 36C heat or, say, under stress, the weapon becomes very hard to hold onto. If the Gen4 26 is anything like the Gen 4 17, then the new grip is great. The original one not so much.

So after a little looking around, and seeing what other people have done I decided to give it a shot. I practiced on some old Springer BB guns I had, and while those lessons were fine, they were also not really the same as working on the Glock polymer.

The Glock 26 has only been stippled on the front strap, right hand side, and half way aroud the back strap. Leaving most of the left side of the gun original. This is because as a CCW it rides against my skin and the stippling can be rather rough. That is the whole idea of the stippling really.

I did bend the stippling on the front too far around the frontstrap and is does rub, but not too much. I won't be that enthusiastic if I ever do it again.

One added bonus is the minute ammount of grip increase you get. I find the Glock frame now fills my hand better. The stippling raises a minute ammount of polymer in a ridge. About half a mil or something. It is a very minute change, but it feels so much better.

The +2's on the mags all take stippling very well and the increased grip is immediately noticible. The mag pouches I have are Glock 19 pouches, so the little bitty 10 rounders hardly fit in them, with the +2's and the stippling gripping and drawing the reloads is much easier.

First true outing is this Saturday, shooting IDPA and 3 gun. Lets see how it holds up.

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nice.  i am considering a glock in .45, convince me Kayback.
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I finally caught the bug which you guys speek of. This past tuesday I got to shoot a hand gun for the first time.
 
Only a .22  But $12 for 50 rounds and my first time it was pretty cool. Wanna try somthing bigger now.
 
Going to look into getting a license.
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$12 for 50 rounds of 22? Wow.  A brick of 22 is normally $10.

But shooting is fun, there's no doubt about it.

So that thing carries 12 rounds, Kayback?  Quite a punch for such a little gun.
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

$12 for 50 rounds of 22? Wow.  A brick of 22 is normally $10.But shooting is fun, there's no doubt about it.So that thing carries 12 rounds, Kayback?  Quite a punch for such a little gun.
Where are you buying a brick for $10?
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I haven't bought .22 in years, but that's what it was the last time I shot.  Either way, $12 is steep.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote merc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2011 at 1:26pm
last time i looked i think a 550rd brick was ~18$... i know i paid more than 14 for my last one.

paying 5$ for 50 rds of good 22 isnt bad here. might be more, i only buy bulk junk...

if you take a file and lightly go over the parts that rub you should knock off most of the high points that bite you but retain alot of the texture for your hand.

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if he got it from walmart it may have been cheap, but if he bought the rounds at the range it would explain the cost difference...the range has to make money somehow
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Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

So that thing carries 12 rounds, Kayback?  Quite a punch for such a little gun.


I carry it with 13. 12 in the mag and 1 in the chamber.

My spare mags are sometimes 19 round Glock 17 mags and I have a Glock 18 mag in the car, 33 rounds.

It is a tight little package.

Ceesman. Go for it. The .45 is one of the nicest rounds to shoot. They make decent holes in the target. My current handload is a 235 grain truncated cone, and damn is it fun to shoot.

There is possibly a problem with lead handloads and Glocks. I personally haven't experienced it, and my 26 eats a steady diet of lead 124 grain truncated cone rounds. It's pretty much all I feed her. But if you are worried you can always get an after market barrel.

OF the .45 Glocks, it depends on what you need it for. The Glock 36 makes a damn fine CCW, but it only holds 7 rounds and spare mags are expensive.

But the Glock 21 SF is where it is at. Glocks aren't sexy, but they are good at shooting. They will take what abuse you give them and come asking for more. The SF is about as good as you can get in the Glock range, and definately in the .45 range. I'd stay clear of the .45 GAP simply because it is too expensive here. (and I have no experience with them).

But why a Glock? The M&P is the latest and greatest, and it is a damn fine pistol. Why not go for a M&P? I found that the M&P was pretty much what a Glock should have been.
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I assume he bought it at the range.  I guess if you're doing it once, it's not bad.  But 24 cents a round is expensive for any pistol ammo.  More expensive than I'd be willing to pay to go plink (although I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, given that I have cheaper alternatives.)
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A brick at Wal-Mart is 18 bucks.
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Kayback and Ceesman,
I had a Glock G21.  The full sized .45.  I have since sold the Glock and got the Smith M&P45.  I love the M&P, it fits my hand better.  The interchangeable back straps are nice.    The G21 had 13 round mags, and the M&P has 10 round Mags.  Yes you will get fewer rounds, but the gun is that much more comfortable.  That and Smith usually has some sort of rebate where you can get extra mags or money back.
As for the G21, I had the gunsmith at the PD do pretty much the same thing to mine.  Keep in mind that he was certified by Glock. 
Ceesman, Don't go on brand name alone.  Go to your local gun shop and take a feel of the two.  See which one fits you.
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flurry- the thing that sucks for me and ceesman is that NY only allows ten round mags. Can't wait to get out of this state...
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Thanks Flurry, Glock and the Springfield XD are my two that I am currently looking at.  The last time I fired a Glock was roughly 8 years ago and it was like holding a brick. I have large hands too and I felt it was a bit too much. I already have a 1911 (Colt Gold Cup)and it shoots everything including lead rounds so Glock is starting to fall on my list.  
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If you are limited to 10, and you want a serious work horse blaster, then get an M&P in .45. As combat tupperware goes they are rock solid.

If you can, and your laws allow it, do what others have suggested to me and get the Smith & Wesson M&P45 - Threaded Barrel Kit. It is an extra $200, and you'll have to shell out another $200 in tax stamps plus whatever the supressor sets you back, but you'll have a damn nice toy.

I'd get one if they weren't the equivalent of a new car here. Damn import taxes and gun dealers making their profit in DOLLARS. Grrrr.

The Glock 21 SF is a nice weapon, don't get me wrong. I loved the one I shot, and a Glock 21 SF Gen 4 would be boobs. You might want to look at the Glock 37 in .45GAP. Like I said I don't want a GAP because there is absolutely ZERO ammunition supply. It would end up sitting unused in the safe next to my brother's unused .454 Casull.

Given that you already have a 1911 and you are limited to 10 rounds, I don't see why you shouldn't get an M&P. It would make the perfect stable mate.
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Thanks.  I will be window shopping this weekend at a few local shops.  I will be sticking with .45 because I have a large stock pile of it and a friend has the dies to reload .45 caliber. "go with what ya know!", so .45 cal it is.
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GAP is hard to get everywhere.

An M&P in 9mm is high on my list of purchases once I have somewhere to keep guns.
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I saw a guy do this to the TPX. I'd never have the brass cojones to do it to a reciever grip frame. Looks nice kudos on having the guts and making it look good.
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