Herman Cain is my front runner... What about you?

I really, Really, like what I have seen from Herman Cain...

 I don't do koolaide bong hits.  Funnels are for fuel and oil and stuff not intellectual consumption.  

Tea Party members aren't racist?

ParielIsBack wrote: I am going to vote for anyone but Romney in the New Jersey primary (independents can vote in either primary in NJ).  I figure my best bet is to pick the craziest one of the bunch of and hope they get the nomination, in which case the Dems will cruise to victory. I really hope I get to vote for Bachmann.

I refuse to go 'lesser of the evils' this election, so unless someone really, REALLY piques my interest, I'm choosing to NOT exercise my right to vote. nearly a year ago, I vowed towards political apathy because I can't get behind the left, and the right can't get behind me. So, screw them all and pass the ammo when the time comes.

GroupB wrote: At least he doesn't just pander to the kooks.  Say what you will about his beliefs, but at least they are his and he sticks to them.

I dunno, some Ron Paul fans are quite kooky...

Reb Cpl wrote: lesser of the evils

I don't see this election coming down to that. I think both Romney and Cain are strong political opponents any way you cut it, with good personal histories. Romney has had his controversy, but you have to bear in mind that he's also been in charge of one of the most liberal states in the union. You can't just look at where Romney is, you have to look at where he came from.

I'll go ahead and start the ten page argument right now-my problem with this election is tea party ,tea party, tea party. I predicted back when McPalin was running that the Tea Party was going screw up the next election for the Republicans. At the time most Teabaggers were playing it off as "we don't want to be in charge, we just to reform" but now it appears that they've built quite a voice in the Republican party. I really think this is the only reason why Perry is able to hold any kind of serious thought of election.

I believe the Tea Party is a fancy new term to cover Neocon interests. They've twisted terminologies and now oppose candidates that are "not conservative enough". This translates to "not far enough right" on the political spectrum, and it's becoming a blatant endorsement of right wing extremism in what has become a rather moderate party.

The problem with this is that "far right" and "conservative" are two very different phrases. It's just another way to endorse extremism in parties and move the public away from the moderate, centrist agenda that they're comfortable with.

I believe it's going to turn into bullying from the tea party towards moderate and centrist Republicans. Already we're seeing those people ostracized on a personal level, and soon we're going to see candidates pushed away on a political level unless the Republican party grows a pair and puts the tea party in their place.

Initially they lacked even structure, simply saying they wanted change and conservatism in politics. This allows the libertarians and neocons to come in push their agendas under a new name. It's like when a terrible phone company merges with a good one and takes their name. Same old bad business under a trusted name.

I tried to get behind the tea party at first. But now it seems like just another cheap way to push extreme right wing politic under the guise of grassroots politics, and there's no room for that in the Republican party.

Mark my words, if a right wing tea party endorsement gets the bid, Obama wins. Essentially the tea party is going to pull a Perot and push moderate Republicans out the door to third party candidates, not voting, or at worst, voting for Obama.

And a full on split from the tea party would spell doom for the Republicans, possibly for more than a decade. But, you can't talk over the shouting in this election, and most of the shouting is coming from the extremists.

I think ALL the drama about the tea party is just that... drama...

FreeEnterprise wrote: The "tea party" isn't a group, it is a collection of people who believe in one simple idea.   Taxed Enough Already.

Right now the left is doing all it can to demonize Cain. If Cain gets the nod as President or Vice the left ideology and rhetoric about the Tea Party being racist and playing the race card goes down the toilet.
Look how Sharpton and Jackson played down Obama when there was the chance Hillary would get the nod on 08, and they wanted a place at Hillary's table if elected, the left's race policies are just as damaging to them as the right internaly.

The Florida straw poll is indicative of voter disgust at all the so called 'front-runners' being same ole crap, but packaged in a differant bag. The ABO (anyone but Obama) voter is going to play a large part in this election, whether they vote for the GOP, or just don't show to vote Democrat. As with NY9 the Dems are panicked that they are losing the base, and the repackaged and failed economic policies from Obama, as well as the potential issues with the stimulus (see Solyndra) and the Health Care Act now before the Supremes. The fact the Dems while having all three did not pass a budget, and still have not ptoposed one credible enough to pass (the Dem compromise of agree with us 100% in order to pass is not an option, nor compromise).

I often see a Johnson move by the Dems, the 1968 Johnson bow out since the Dems saw him as unelectable at that time, I don't think Johnson made decesion wholely on his own, but was coererced for 'the good of the party'. I also see Hillary in a primary run against Obama, if the negative Obama trend does not change here real soon.

Whale you do understand 'perception is the truth of the moment' on both sides. The anti-Tea Party Rhetoric based mainly on the needed perception by the left, as well as the anti-Obama rhetoric based again on a needed perception. Somewhere in that maze is 'the truth', but it is to no-ones advantage to actually speak said truth.

I would love to see a Cain vs Obama election, what would the left use to demonize Cain besides the 'he left the plantation' rhetoric the left uses on any minority or female that moved to the right.
Obama was raised by a white grandmother and went to privledged private schools all his life, so how does he as 'half-black' contend with a pure black in the needed 'black man' perception war against Cain.