We Stopped Dreaming

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 oldpbnoob wrote:

 GroupB wrote:

 oldpbnoob wrote:

 Rofl_Mao wrote:

Extreme opbn is extreme. I never said all military spending is wasteful, I believe in strong national defence, but not to extreme lengths. A small-ER military that is expertly trained can be just as effective (in some cases more) as a huge military.

Just setting my case straight here - I know you're not changing your mind.
 And I never said all NASA spending was wasteful either. I beleive there is wasteful spending in nearly every government program out there TBH. 

And to clarify, I do not beleive I ever endorsed cutting corporate taxation. Think you are getting your old farts mixed up Group B.  

That's likely, there are too many of them running around here.

I will say one last thing though.  Just like war is the necessary evil that drives military innovation spinoffs, space exploration is the necessary "evil" that drives NASAs innovation spinoffs.  If it weren't for space exploration (or some other lofty* goal), NASA would have nothing to develop for.  

* See what i did there?
 And I guess thats the crux of it. I feel military innovation is considerably more necessary than trying to figure out how to travel to some unknown or maybe non-existent planet for a scenario that may or may not ever happen with technology that most likely will never exist. Which is back to my original point that people have not stopped dreaming, a lot of us just realized the dream is exactly that, a dream. It most likely will never become a reality as we have imagined it.It is entirely impossible for man to rise into the air and float there. For this you would need wings of tremendous dimensions and they would have to be moved at three feet per second. Only a fool would expect such a thing to be realized.— Joseph de Lalande, member of the French Academy, 'Journal de Paris,' 18 May 1782.