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    Posted: 16 March 2014 at 4:20pm
As the parents, I'd be hard pressed not to quit my job and move out of the country, or convert to the Amish way of life.
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If a judge folds on this it will be the end of parenthood and the teenagers across the country are now in charge. I really don't think any judge is that crazy, but it is NJ. And the parents letting her back in are crazy, and really did not see this coming? PLEASE are this generation of parents that out of touch?



If I were the parents just to PO here lawyer, rack up a ton of credit card debt, declare bankruptcy, and tell Dear Daughter, suck on it see you in 7 years.
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^^^  When she graduates high school, I'd throw her the heck out.
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USA TODAY had an article, this little twit is back home, but is looking to file as 'non-emancipated' and get $654 a week from her parents in financial support, plus still force them to pay upcoming college tuition.


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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

 

I think he is just a typical liberal* who thinks everyone should be able to live how they want on other people's money without having to actually work and earn anything for themselves.



*Yes, I went there.  Big smile
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She needs to do her homework, clean her room, clean up her dishes and take the garbage out...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2014 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I really think that she was sleeping with the friend's dad to be honest. The guy is a lawyer and he was fronting the dough for the lawsuit? Who does that and why? The only reason I can think of is a bit inappropriate. 
Agreed.


I disagree . . . I think he is just a typical liberal* who thinks everyone should be able to live how they want on other people's money without having to actually work and earn anything for themselves.

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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I really think that she was sleeping with the friend's dad to be honest. The guy is a lawyer and he was fronting the dough for the lawsuit? Who does that and why? The only reason I can think of is a bit inappropriate. 
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And this move back in will work out 'well', the parents are setting themselves up and have no clue. I could never trust her and the potentials of 'trouble' from her are endless...Daddy beat me, here comes the social workers and courts as she 'gets even', and that syster Lawyer, I'm with Reb, bettin he dipped the wick in the well. In my world you make the I can make it on my own comment, best of luck to ya, let me know how it all turns out. All my kids did it, now understand it and we are back on 'good' terms, but the never got and will never get the move back in invitation (unless some catastrophic event)

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I really think that she was sleeping with the friend's dad to be honest. The guy is a lawyer and he was fronting the dough for the lawsuit? Who does that and why? The only reason I can think of is a bit inappropriate. 
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I wouldn't have let her come home. 

Not being mean, I just think she needs to learn a lesson.

It would have been tough love.
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So, there's an update on the original topic of this thread:

She's back home but apparently the lawsuit is still on. I think she now realizes that she's not going to win at the very least and is hoping to patch things up before the suit shuts her out forever.
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Once again, the benefits. I finished my degree between the 'old' GI Bill, and then VA Vocational Rehabilitation Program once I could not work in my trained field. As part of the 'contract' if the veteran is rated 100% service connected disabled, which I am, the dependents of that veteran will receive certain VA education Benefits, usually a monthly stipe end and cost assistance, and then the State of Nebraska pays 100% of tuition to a Nebraska University or Community College as long as veteran and student are Nebraska residents.

Mitch in Arizona only gets the VA stipe-end and costs, so he has to use the stipe end to 'pay' for tuition at the Arizona school. He 'quit' the Nebraska program to chase a skirt to Arizona, so he will have some college debt, Anna last daughter is using the full Federal as well as State programs, essentially 'free', essentially no debt on graduation.

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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Both of my parents worked their entire lives and couldn't afford to send 3 kids to college, and they were big on saving.  Why should OS's kids be denied college because their dad was disabled from his military service?


 Part of the reason for the ability to use such military disability benefits to aid one's children's education is to compensate for the aid the parent in question would have provided, had that parent not been disabled and rendered less capable of providing that aid.

This is what I was getting at, it was just really early in the morning.  
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Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't OS' kids entitled to free college regardless of disability or not?

I believe I would have had my tuition waived if my dad was still in or retired after 20.

Also, OS, weren't you NYC LEO post Vietnam?

I thought the GI Bill was kind of a one-hit wonder, regardless of who(veteran, dependant, etc) used it? I know my brother-in-law debated whether to save his for my nephew.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't OS' kids entitled to free college regardless of disability or not?

I believe I would have had my tuition waived if my dad was still in or retired after 20.

Also, OS, weren't you NYC LEO post Vietnam?
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Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Both of my parents worked their entire lives and couldn't afford to send 3 kids to college, and they were big on saving.  Why should OS's kids be denied college because their dad was disabled from his military service?


While I disagree with JMac3 in this thread, I think you misunderstand what he is saying.  (Or you just phrased your response really poorly.)

He doesn't seem to have a problem with OS having earned benefits for himself.  More to the point, he doesn't think that OS's kids should be denied college because OS is disabled from military service.  He just doesn't think OS's children are entitled to benefit's that OS isn't using because OS, not the children, earned those benefits.

As for the benefits themselves, USAF covered the point well, but I will add this.  Part of the reason for the ability to use such military disability benefits to aid one's children's education is to compensate for the aid the parent in question would have provided, had that parent not been disabled and rendered less capable of providing that aid.
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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes I am serious. Why does OS's kids deserve free college because one parent is disabled? They have another parent to provide for the family.

I never said OS doesn't deserve anything.

I grew up with neither parent raised by just my grandmother and I'm not entitled to free college. She raised me and my sister.

The worst part is I've seen OS on this very forum talk about entitlements, and even this very thread is about it.

My biggest disagreement with this is much as OS's response says. I don't think it's an entitlement if it is guaranteed in your employment "contract," as it were.  Plenty of employers offer unique benefits to their employees.

If the military doesn't want to offer that as a benefit to new recruits, just don't offer it. But don't try and take it away from those you already promised it to.
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When you sign that contract with the government for certain future benefits that you earn for an exchange of your military service, it is part of the total package. I earned college for my kids based on my service and the service connected disabilities from that service.

Those who can not understand why they are not entitled for similar benefits for no exchange of service, that is the issue. Getting something for nothing, a feeling of entitlement.

As for my disabilities, define disabilities. My options are pretty simple, enjoy the rest of my life to the best of my ability, and function, or sit in a chair take drugs and die.
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Both of my parents worked their entire lives and couldn't afford to send 3 kids to college, and they were big on saving.  Why should OS's kids be denied college because their dad was disabled from his military service?
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