Co2 Vs Air

an x core is not a regulator... an x core makes it so that little or no liquid co2 goes into your marker

RevoXT wrote: HPA is cheaper at your field.. are you in the twilight zone? C02 Fills at field are like 5$ Here HPA Is like 9$... I have no problems with C02.. I haven't added my X-Core yet so it'll be even better when I do, Anti-Siphon does fine I can do fully auto and NEVER freeze up, the only good thing about HPA is you could get a 72CI\4800 and get about 1,600 shots.. :-P, and QcXF pm me and I'll give you a look of it with Macroline right when I hook it up which will probly be on Friday since that's when everything comes in...The drop I am useing is the Shocktech A-5 DropForward w\ On\Off ASA, the on\off is kinda pointless since my tank has a on\off valve lol but it balances the marker VERY well... and tecumseh the only reason I can think of that your Macroline didn't work well is that you most likely didn't have anti-siphon and were rapid firing.. causeing the line to freeze and then crack... and RicWhic414, What are you talking about "Lighter" A GOOD tank which would be 68\4500 runs you about 160-200+ I'm talking Crossfire\Pure Energy... 3000 PSI is just a waste.. Why spend 160-200 when you can spend 20$, add a smart parts on\off valve 20$ and then anti-siphon it for 10$? If you really want to adjust you can get a C02 Regulator... you don't need HPA at all.

If your paying $9 to fill your tank,their bending you over the counter.Thats outrageous.Are field you pay $15 for entry and all day air.that covers you from 12-9pm

RevoXT wrote: HPA is cheaper at your field.. are you in the twilight zone? C02 Fills at field are like 5$ Here HPA Is like 9$... I have no problems with C02.. I haven't added my X-Core yet so it'll be even better when I do, Anti-Siphon does fine I can do fully auto and NEVER freeze up, the only good thing about HPA is you could get a 72CI\4800 and get about 1,600 shots.. :-P, and QcXF pm me and I'll give you a look of it with Macroline right when I hook it up which will probly be on Friday since that's when everything comes in...The drop I am useing is the Shocktech A-5 DropForward w\ On\Off ASA, the on\off is kinda pointless since my tank has a on\off valve lol but it balances the marker VERY well... and tecumseh the only reason I can think of that your Macroline didn't work well is that you most likely didn't have anti-siphon and were rapid firing.. causeing the line to freeze and then crack... and RicWhic414, What are you talking about "Lighter" A GOOD tank which would be 68\4500 runs you about 160-200+ I'm talking Crossfire\Pure Energy... 3000 PSI is just a waste.. Why spend 160-200 when you can spend 20$, add a smart parts on\off valve 20$ and then anti-siphon it for 10$? If you really want to adjust you can get a C02 Regulator... you don't need HPA at all.

speak for yourself, some fields have fill-it-yourself air. i prefer co2, but i usually play at a ghetto place with only a compressor.

RevoXT wrote: You have MUCH better prices....wow... I wish we had those prices.. with your own gear and gun it's 10$ no free air refills, 2,000 paintballs is about 80$.. this is at Paintball Atlanta.

Ooooh, that sux.  I will play at a field every once and awhile.  $10 for the 4 hrs of play time.  Free HPA & I think C02 fills for the entire time.  Paint (PMI Premiums) $50/case.

Unfortunately not very many people show up.  10-20 mostly.  Just enough to play speedball.  If more than that show, we'll play woodsball.

 

Sponsored players naturally have higher-end electronic guns... high-end electronics can't handle any amount of liquid in them or it will fry the solenoid. C02 IS FINE on a non-electro or even certain electros. You can fix almost every problem for a very cheap cost.. Anti-Siphon and X-Core and you won't have any drop off, only gas will enter your gun even under rapid fire 

I'm wondering if you Wrathlon, have ever used anti-siphon c02 in a combo with an 8-stage expansion chamber..? Anti-Siphon prevents most almost all liquid from getting out, but under rapid fire some does, the X-Core gets the rest. That way you are ONLY getting air.. very simple if you think about it. Something tells me when you had C02 you did NOTHING to improve it\fix it, let's compare prices.... Anti-Siphon Tube - 8$, X-Core = 23$, 20oz C02 Tank = 20$... alot cheaper than a 68\4500 tank eh?


Edited by Tippmania - 16 September 2006 at 3:00pm

Meh.. I live in Atlanta.. the coldest it gets here is 30c.. haven't tested in that weather yet since it only gets that cold for like a month

being someone who just recently started playing i am interested in knowing the costs of switching...

what all do you need to make an A-5 use HPA instead of co2?

obviously a good start would be a different tank which seems kind of expensive but whatelse would i HAVE to buy?

 

thanks

The only thing about HPA, (besides refill cost check your local refill store) is that for the size of the tank, you don't get as many shots as you do w\ c02. I'd get ATLEAST a 68\4500.... however if your store only fills up to 3,000.... then go with a 68\3000 or bigger. I haven't had any problems with C02 yet so I .... well I don't ever plan on switchin'.

Tippmania wrote: I'm wondering if you Wrathlon, have ever used anti-siphon c02 in a combo with an 8-stage expansion chamber..? Anti-Siphon prevents most almost all liquid from getting out, but under rapid fire some does, the X-Core gets the rest. That way you are ONLY getting air.. very simple if you think about it. Something tells me when you had C02 you did NOTHING to improve it\fix it, let's compare prices.... Anti-Siphon Tube - 8$, X-Core = 23$, 20oz C02 Tank = 20$... alot cheaper than a 68\4500 tank eh?

Sorry once again been away for a while .

Yes my friend you are correct I did not install an xchamber or anti syphon  while using C02 but i did install a palmer stabilizer and still have it installed with my HPA set up (Absolutely love it)

 

But as mentioned before the best thing and worth the extra money alone is that I have never run outta air since I switched . when I was using Co2 I would bust my butt getting to the front line or objective only to run outta Co2 , OMG drove me INSANE !! No matter what field i played on its happened . Yes I shoot a lot of paint but not too much for my 68 4500 , never  have I run out not even in scenario's.

 

Your very correct in stating that its much more expensive than upgrading your C02 setup with a few parts or mods. But like most parts if you look around carefully you can find some good deals but have to be really careful with tanks. I found mine for $159.00 which has been reduced since then to $149.00 But its a great tank and I could not be happier . I also live up north where it gets cold quick and stays cold for a long time. I want to be able to get in as much PBing as possible in the cold climate . Much better than sweating in the summer  So Co2 is not an option for me any more .

 

In summary Tippmania you bring forth some very valid points about both HPA and Co2 . I am not knocking Co2 as  I always say  "too each their own" as we all have and live under different circumstances . Choose what best fits your current situation .  Now i pose the question to you my friend have you ever used HPA ?? I mean all day not just a few shots from a friends marker .

 

Edited by wrathlon - 21 September 2006 at 4:00pm