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cyclone return spring mod????

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    Posted: 20 July 2006 at 12:20am
Has anyone tried puting a stronger return spring in there cyclone? I do think it would kick it up past the 25 mark. I may try it in mine this weekend... if I can get a new set of punchs that will fit the vortex pins. I broke mine putting it in
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It'll chop paint...
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Originally posted by Dan db09 Dan db09 wrote:

It'll chop paint...

probably. you'll need paint that is quite durable. any tournament-grade paint, or fragile paint won't stand up to a stock cyclone, much less a modded one. now, a friend of mine used this paint called "wild streak," and he could shoot trees, and the paint would bounce off. maybe that's a good paint to use

 

edit: it just occured to me: why would you want to shoot faster than 25 bps? that's just stupid. heck, 20 bps is stupid. heck, 15 bps is borderline stupid.
i have my R/T set for 10-12 bps, and there is NO WAY that someone could pop up, fire off a few rounds, and duck back down while i'm shooting off a string of 8-10 shots....it only takes 2-3 shots to get someone to duck down/take cover. not 25. that's just a stupid waste of money.



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Youre misunderstanding the limits of the design of the cyclone. The weak point isnt the spring strength, but the design of the spring-return ram.

The weak point in the design is that at higher rates of fire, so many bursts of air are feeding into the cylinder that the spring has no time to reset the cylinder and ratchet the cyclone. A quick exhaust valve alone should help the speed considerably.

First, the stronger spring would require more air pressure to cycle the cyclone completely. Since theres no way to adjust the air pressure feeding the cyclone, I doubt it would even work.

Second, the increased air pressure (assuming it could be adjusted) would just balance out the new spring, and it would perform exactly the same as the stock cyclone.


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how about drilling a hole at the point at which the piston is at the farthest forward? that, and a QEV would make it return faster...right????

Note: if anyone does this,  its your gun and your fault!!!! I did not tell you to do it!!!

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woah, or rip the cyclone off and feedneck it

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double action ram is the way to go
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Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

double action ram is the way to go

Hows that??

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Yes there is a way to adjust the air flow to the cyclone...

Use the adjustment fitting from the RT for the fitting that feeds the Cyclone... its adjustable....

good luck figuring out what the correct setting is....  happy cleaning for awhile !

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