Upgraded Phantom vs. ProMaster w/ xtras

Plus this 13cu in tank





Quick background...

I already have one Phantom (VSC, stock) that I use when I play woods, and it works great. I'm looking for a reliable, fairly affordable gun to use for speedball (with all the extras I want, the promaster would be about $440...close to the price of the phantom + tank). I've looked at a lot of upgraded Phantom's but this one pretty much takes the cake. I fell in love at first sight.

If I got the Promaster I would get with it a 68ci 3k tank, stickies, and a New Desighnz drop.

As I type this I'm slowly swaying towards the Phantom.

id get the promaster because you already have a pump, or get that, trade off your other phantom for a promaster(if its worth that much, i dont know much about pumps)

what all are you doing to your promaster? just adding a reg, hopper, tank, and a asa? or what else is there?

Edited by ¤ RaVeN ¤ - 18 October 2006 at 8:45pm

jerseypaint wrote: ¤ RaVeN ¤ wrote: what all are you doing to your promaster? just adding a reg, hopper, tank, and a asa? or what else is there? What else is needed?

barrel, grips, feed neck...drops...what ever he wants...

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just to get the gun working...with decent air consumption...the stock reg will only get you around 700-800 shots a fill...and you still would need a feed neck...just those things i linked that $365.00 without the feed neck, $390.00 with the feed neck added without shipping...which i think may be free...but add in your tank

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and now your at $575.00...and you dont have a hopper to feed a promaster well do you?

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the price is 103 (since they wont show it...)

so now thats $688.00 to get it going really...not adding a barrel to it which is about the last thing you would need to do.

if you go for the ion you can get either a normal ion for $200 or a ANS razor ion for $250 http://www.ans-ion.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=308 which has alot better stuff on it...the stock reg is decent enough to get 1400 shots per fill or around there...and it is decently consistant...the barrel is good for being stock...the only thing you need to do is get a feed neck for it...so thats, if you get the ANS, $280, then add the hopper and tank which brings it too...$568...oh yea and a QEV so thats about $580.00

or you can go the cheeper way, but your performance will suffer from this...

200 for a nromal ion...then 45 for a anti-siphon 20oz co2 tank and then do a palmer stab http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer.htm for 70 or so and a QEV is another 20...so your looking more at about $450.00 or in that general area...with the hopper added into it

Edited by ¤ RaVeN ¤ - 19 October 2006 at 1:03pm

Seeing as you already have a Phantom, I'd go with the ProMaster.

Buy the Phantom, i mean look at that thing its all kinds of awesome. Sell your old phantom then with that money save for the promaster