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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

I wonder what would happend if you rigged it to a nitrous tank(Not compressed air).

Theoretically, the gun could be modded to accept any flammable fuel, I guess.  Is nitrous flammable - I don't think it is...


Nitrous OXIDE is flammable, but Im not sure about the kind that goes into a paintball gun.
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Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

I wonder what would happend if you rigged it to a nitrous tank(Not compressed air).

600 fps?that would be fun.  Hey, if your gun was starting to kick the bucket, and you really didnt like someone, you could give them your gun and 500 free painballs with a bit of gasoline on them!!(dont worry, Tippmann, i was joking)

 

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Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

I wonder what would happend if you rigged it to a nitrous tank(Not compressed air).

Theoretically, the gun could be modded to accept any flammable fuel, I guess.  Is nitrous flammable - I don't think it is...


Nitrous OXIDE is flammable, but Im not sure about the kind that goes into a paintball gun.

 

Wow... your ignorance amazes me. Nitrous Oxide is NOT flammable. Thats what the dentist gives you when he fills cavities. Think he would be pouring dangerous vapors into your lungs? No. The only reason you think it is flammable is because of the Fast and the Furious movies. They use Nitrous in cars because it sends extra oxygen into the cylinders which causes them to allow more fuel and greater combustion, therefore greater power.

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hmmm its pretty tall i dont think i'd use a normal hopper (or even the small ones)... now a q-loader or something i might... yea its over kill but im thinkin' more about the size and profile.

 

now that i think about it i wish they would have made the gas line more like the one on the A-5, that way you could hook up a remote line, I've never seen a remote line that would go in the c3 the way it is now... but i dont know much about remote lines. also is there a reason its not vertfeed? the mod would be easy but can you think of a reason why they didnt do it in the first place? maybe to keep us thinking and occupied till they come out with something else... man i gotta get one of these and start tinkering with it... im probley going to kill myself doing it to lol

hey rambino with the ragulator removed is the bottom of the trigger flat? or like the A-5?

*edit*- after printing out the manuel it seems to me the feed wont hinder its proformance since a) its only firing at 4bps and b) there is a ball waiting while you shoot the ball in the barrel.

 



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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Thats how they could do the semi, not a pure propane, but a prop. c02 hybrid!, after every 5 or so shots, it fills empty spaces around the chamber and barrel with c02 to cool it off.

Guys, expanding propane itself is a coolant just like expanding CO2. Fact is that they make portable refrigerators that run off of tanks of propane. A shot of propane would cool almost as well as a shot of CO2.



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Originally posted by Bruce A. Frank Bruce A. Frank wrote:

Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Thats how they could do the semi, not a pure propane, but a prop. c02 hybrid!, after every 5 or so shots, it fills empty spaces around the chamber and barrel with c02 to cool it off.

Guys, expanding propane itself is a coolant just like expanding CO2. Fact is that they make portable refrigerators that run off of tanks of propane. A shot of propane would cool almost as well as a shot of CO2.

so can the propane ignite from the chamber being to hot? or will every small burst of propane cool the chamber? will how long and how fast u do it make a diffrence? im just thinking that if you use this shooting 4bps (which is supposet to be the max) for a couple minutes that its possable for this thing to get a little to hot and have the propane explode prematurly, just about everyone (cant recall everysingle one) who has writin a review of this on pbreview has said that the chamber gets a little hot so im just wondering if it is possable. your thoughts?

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You'd need to get that thing pretty darn hot before it would prematuly ignite the propane( in a machinegun or rifle this is refered to as the round "cooking-off") If it's even theorectically possible, it isn't practically possible. Try looking up what the tempurature required to ignite propane is.
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you need to highlght it (click and drag your mouse down letters should turn blue)

The auto-ignition temperature - the minimum temperature required to ignite a gas or vapor in air without a spark or flame being present - for some common fuels can be found below: 

Fuel or Chemical Temperature 
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(oF)

Acetaldehyde 175 347
Acetone 465 869
Acetylene 305 581

Benzene

560

1040

Bituminous coal

300

572
Butane

420

788

Carbon

700

1292

Carbon monoxide

609

1128

Coal-tar oil

580

1076

Coke

700

1292
Cyclohexane 245 473
Diethyl ether 160 320
Ethane 515 859
Ethylene 490 914
Ehtyl Alcohol 365 689
Fuel Oil No.1 210 410
Fuel Oil No.2 256 494
Fuel Oil No.4 262 505

Heavy hydrocarbons

750

1382

Hydrogen

500

932
Gasoline 280 536
Kerosine 210 410
Isobutane 462 864
Isobutene 465 869
Isooctane 447 837
Isopentane 420 788
Isopropyl Alcohol 399 750

Light gas

600

1112

Light hydrocarbons

650

1202
Methane (Natural Gas) 580 1076
Methyl Alcohol 385 725

Naphtha

550

1022
Neoheaxane 797 425
Neopentane 842 450
n-Butane 761 405
n-Heptane 419 215
n-Hexane 225 437
n-Octane 220 428
n-Pentane 260 500
n-Pentene 298 569

Peat

227

440

Petroleum

400

752

Production gas

750

1382
Propane

480

842
Propylene 458 856
p-Xylene 530 986
Toluene 530 849

Semi anthracite coal

400

752
Styrene 490 914

Wood

300

572
Xylene 463 867

 

yes it seems highly impossable that you could get it to that temp.



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842 degrees...


Now that is a serious hand warmer.
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yes stealth from what i've read so far today is that it seems when propane is put into the chamber (30c in Az) that it will cool it down (but not more than it heats it up and thats why the chamber feels warm) and even if you shoot a full 16oz tank in 208.3 minutes (which i couldnt do and im sure no one here can) i dont think it could reach over 150 degrees.

i wonder if they can make the chamber longer and narrower, that will give the marker a lower profile (keep im mind i havent held one of these so im not 100% sure that making it longer will help it might just make it really long and not help it) maybe the chamber can be longer and be under the barrel (look kinda like this http://www.pbreview.com/pics/rebelvtl.jpg ) and i think tippmann droped the ball in the barrel and should have givin this A-5 threading 

 

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LOL! The auto-ignition temp for propane is almost the same as it is for wood!!  I don't see pre-ignition being much of a problem since if the marker got that hot you would be in danger of burning down the forrest!

Just had to check, the melting point of aluminum is 1220.58 °F so at least your C3 wouldn't melt.

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Originally posted by SmuckersKP SmuckersKP wrote:

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:


Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

I wonder what would happend if you rigged it to a nitrous tank(Not compressed air).


Theoretically, the gun could be modded to accept any flammable fuel, I guess.  Is nitrous flammable - I don't think it is...


Nitrous OXIDE is flammable, but Im not sure about the kind that goes into a paintball gun.


 


Wow... your ignorance amazes me. Nitrous Oxide is NOT flammable. Thats what the dentist gives you when he fills cavities. Think he would be pouring dangerous vapors into your lungs? No. The only reason you think it is flammable is because of the Fast and the Furious movies. They use Nitrous in cars because it sends extra oxygen into the cylinders which causes them to allow more fuel and greater combustion, therefore greater power.



100% burnage... hes right i know alot about cars... nice

i to like the c3 but its not what im looking for right now...lol
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Can you take one more picture of your C3, your hand, and Shaq's shoe. We need to see how big your hand is in relationship to Shaq's 22s and the shoe in relationship to the C3. How can we tell you don't have girly hands, you are wearing a dress shirt. If you can't find one of Shaq's shoe you could stand it up end to end next to an average size three year old, only if its average size though. If you have any doubts, look for the shoe. Can you also put a new sign that says "Poopy is Punk".
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Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

It still seems so daggum tall.

It is somewhat tall - the barrel basically sits on top of the combustion chamber.  It doesn't FEEL tall, though, if that makes any sense.  Not like an Impulse, where you feel like it's going to topple.

But hey - my new gun has a combustion chamber.    :D


Ugh. I hate my impulse. It's a brick. That thing looks bloody enormous, the C3 I mean.
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