GOTM VOTING

procarbinefreak wrote: i'm not doubting the time and effort put into these guns, but you guys seem to lump people with high ends into "little spoiled rich kids"... what if they worked their asses off at their job so they could afford one of these guns.  I'm also not saying rof should be a factor... but again... you guys see an electro and go... blah i'm not voting for that because it's "stock".  when in reality it probably shoots better than most of the guns on the list.  i mean... have you guys shot any kind of matrix, or a cyborg... they're amazing.  this wasn't even meant to bash anyone... diedonimpact's cocker is awesome looking and probably shoots like a dream for a mech gun... i probably would have picked that one too... but some of the others... probably not.

That's not the point of GOTM though. The GOTM has to be unique. While I would definitely agree that matrices and borgs are great guns, there's nothing unique about them. UNLESS you custom modded them. Ie, custom anno pattern, custom milling, etc. GOTM is more about cool factor. Because if you think about it, you can't judge performance by a picture.

i vote for  "diedonimpact" Thats also my friends gun and its so awesome! he told me he was going to do this at christmas but i was just gunna wait to see if he actually did. and he came thru! he built it all, tuned it and now it works great! that pic is a lil **edited**ty of it, and the anno is a little brighter blue to black on the body.. i want him to win and he deserves to win with all the work hes put into this gun!

I agree with  niq.

Almost every gun on there is not truely customized. The karni, system X cocker and scout's mag aren't custom.
Sly's cocker might be, but Im have no idea.
And warbreak's has a lot of internal work done.
Other then that, I dont see you guys standing over a mill machine making the body, trigger frame and other parts from a block of aluminium. So your "these guns are truly custom" agruement doesn't work.

NiQ-Toto wrote:  The thing with this statement is, it is so easy to buy the parts for a cocker,not the way he did it, he worked his A$$ of over the whole summer to earn a couple thousand dollars. Then he spent another few months contacting numerous private comapnies to look for unique parts and a custom body. slap them together and have an amazing looking gun, but that doesnt mean it works great. If you have an idiot timing it,The kid was too damn smart for the number one private christian school in georgia, definatly not and idiot, you will have a piece of garbage to play with. The other thing is, it is not hard to set up a cocker. People think "OMG Cocker, difficult high end gun to maintain!" This is 100% not true. Get quality parts, set it up nice and itll shoot amazing forever as long as you keep it clean and lubed. Anywho, just stating my opinion. Dont hate cause i have an expensive gun... and know how to use it...

 

 

ok hippiepower overexagerated bout the price but everything else is 100 percent true. btw i have this odd feeling that many ppl in this forum do not have the ability to build a custom autococker

im hugary

That's true. There are different levels of custom. Ours are obviously a lot lower than something Doc Nickle could pull off, but last time I checked an airsmith didn't enter there stuff there. Nor did anyone else with a mill. That doesn't mean our stuff isn't custom or unique. That's what matters for GOTM, uniqueness. Anyone can go out and buy a stock DM5. A gun that is truly one of a kind and has something unique about it, that's special.

diedonimpact wrote: lol what do you want from us??????? first normal high end guns arent good enough now "custom" guns arent good enough. guys i think you ppl are taking this way to far. NOBODY is going to make a gun from a slab of aluminum. and if they did it was suck 1) they dont have presician (however the hell you spell) tools. 2) it would look like a piece of crap. 3) probably wouldnt fire

Err, i have access to 2 really freaking nice machine shops, and i know how to work the machines, but i dont want to take a mill to my DM5 body cause i like it the way it is. Precision is really easy to get if youre not a moron with these machines. Why would it not fire if all i did was change the design of the body? Take the shocktech dm's for example, they can be pretty much reproduced (not exactly) with a mill and some different bits.

Hippiepower wrote: NiQ-Toto wrote: The thing with this statement is, it is so easy to buy the parts for a cocker,not the way he did it, he worked his A$$ of over the whole summer to earn a couple thousand dollars. Then he spent another few months contacting numerous private comapnies to look for unique parts and a custom body. slap them together and have an amazing looking gun, but that doesnt mean it works great. If you have an idiot timing it,The kid was too damn smart for the number one private christian school in georgia, definatly not and idiot, you will have a piece of garbage to play with. The other thing is, it is not hard to set up a cocker. People think "OMG Cocker, difficult high end gun to maintain!" This is 100% not true. Get quality parts, set it up nice and itll shoot amazing forever as long as you keep it clean and lubed. Anywho, just stating my opinion. Dont hate cause i have an expensive gun... and know how to use it...

Cocker, does NOT cost thousands of dollars. All those parts new cost maybe a grand if youre an idiot and buy from high priced proshops. And contacting custom shops for bodies/parts? No way... I dunno whos cocker youre talking about, but diedonimpact's is a freeflow body and can be bought basically anywhere, and Sly's is a Works cocker. diedonimpact's does not have custom parts, it has aftermarket parts. There is a huge difference. I could build the same cocker as his for about $300 if i were to buy the parts used.

And he was DENIED from a school for being too smart? Yeah, uh huh, i believe it. Besides, its georgia, doesnt take much to be the smartest redneck in that state.

procarbinefreak wrote: but then they could take that dm5 and put a new bolt kit in it, a new board, new regs, throw in some swapped color parts, and ul frame it.

Theres only one board out for the UL frame at the moment (maybe 2 if tadao made one already). And i need an evolve kit, but i wouldnt get the hybrid bolt guide, it looks like garbage. And why would you need new regs? The hyper 2 and LPR are already great... And swapped color parts is a matter of opinion... I should send mine to anno to have the UL frame matched.

well niq... way to rain on my parade... i was just shooting out ideas of how to "customize" a matrix. 

procarbinefreak wrote: well niq... way to rain on my parade... i was just shooting out ideas of how to "customize" a matrix.

Sorry, i couldnt leave you out. <3