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People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.
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If its a proven fact that it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, home come we still have affirmitive action.


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I could just go for some stimulating conversation.



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Originally posted by 98God 98God wrote:

People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.

Well, murder is illegal killing.  Rape is illegal sex.  In an anarchical state without values or laws, you can have neither murder nor rape.  Or thieves, for that matter.

The ONLY reason we have rape, murder, and theft, is because we have certain values and laws.  Not the other way around.

But, of course, it would be impossible to have "no values".  It would simply be different values.  When people say "no values", they really mean "values I don't agree with".
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

Originally posted by 98God 98God wrote:

People need morals and values because they keep the world in order. If people didn't have any morals then there would be rapists, murderers, thiefs and the like all over the place. Granted there are a few bad apples like that but the people with morals and values keep them on the right track and keep the world turning.

Well, murder is illegal killing.  Rape is illegal sex.  In an anarchical state without values or laws, you can have neither murder nor rape.  Or thieves, for that matter.

The ONLY reason we have rape, murder, and theft, is because we have certain values and laws.  Not the other way around.

But, of course, it would be impossible to have "no values".  It would simply be different values.  When people say "no values", they really mean "values I don't agree with".



Yeah that is true but if people didn't have morals there would be a much greater number of them in my opinion. If someone doesn't give a hell about something they are going to do it. In my opinon anyway.
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I think you misunderstood my post... 
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Originally posted by Clark Kent Clark Kent wrote:

I think you misunderstood my post... 


Yeah I did. I re-read it though and got it that time. Don't mind my second post.


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A.  No morals means no laws

B.  No laws means no illegal acts, no crimes

C.  No crimes means no murder, theft, or rape, since those things are defined by their illegality.

 

But most importantly: "no morals" = nonsense



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Originally posted by -ProDigY- -ProDigY- wrote:

On the following questions:


Why do people need morals and values?



To keep the animals and brutes in line. They make people feel safe at night.

What is the source of personal integrity?


The soul or heart of a person.

What are challenges to personal integrity?


When a person has a chance to deviate from his or her definition of what is right, and what is wrong.
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You should consider Buddihsm. They're the kind of people who wonder "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" and stuff like that. Here, look at this: So You Wanna convert to Buddihsm?

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That Buddhism for Dummies link cracks me up.

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Morality is something that is taught by parents. I was raised by liberal parents so now I believe in the right to smoke pot, **edited** rights, and racial equality.
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Morals are just a form of social and personal controls similar to law and social values.

Are they important for people to get along, sure. Are they vital for existance to survive? Probably not.

But everyone and every society has their own morals and expectations of other to adhere to those morals. Since they dont always coinside conflict is created.

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Originally posted by bluemunky42 bluemunky42 wrote:

You should consider Buddihsm. They're the kind of people who wonder "If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?" and stuff like that. Here, look at this: So You Wanna convert to Buddihsm?


Speaking of Buddihsm, arent their views sort of paradox?  They beleive in moderation and if they are moderate in everything they do isnt that taking moderation to the extream?  Just a thought.

But to answer your question Prod, think about doing something you never tried, dont you want to know the rules or limitations?  I think its part of the human personality that we want to know the rules and if there are none we want to have them.  Morals are just really broad rules.


 
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:


Speaking of Buddihsm, arent their views sort of paradox?  They beleive in moderation and if they are moderate in everything they do isnt that taking moderation to the extream?   

A buddhist monk once told me that moderation should be practiced in moderation.

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Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

People need morals and values to guide their life. Screw the other two.

totally agree
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People need morals to be thier own independent person.
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Originally posted by Rhino 91 Rhino 91 wrote:

Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

People need morals and values to guide their life. Screw the other two.

totally agree


Ugh. Now I know I'm wrong.

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