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HITMAN 4 HIRE
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theres sniping in paintball get over it.
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Darur
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Prove it |
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Nickodemus
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I guess everyone has there decided definition of Snipers and Sniping. It just seems that the paintball snipers don't care about the skills that everyone else in the world's definition of sniper holds. |
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Sniperdaddy
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alot of you are missing the point.sniping is NOT staying in one spot picking off targets that only you can see. the only reason that i got my 98 flatline is because my imagine couldnt hit a brick wall. so for all of you out there who are confused about the whole point of sniping it is simply this: 1. really accurate gun
2.avoiding other players paintballs and 3. moving around to get a better vantage point of your opponent that sums it up |
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Darur
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hybrid-sniper
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Yeah, that is about the worst arguement I have ever seen trying to prove their existence. |
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Sentinelz
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HOLY CRAP!!!! I just thought of a new paintball that might fly straight! I need to do some estimates and math I'll be back.... Edited by Sentinelz |
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Nickodemus
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Correct. You can use the estimated height of a person downrange very well. Also, there are other tricks, a 20" sillouhette will dissapear behind the width of your front site on a M1 (unless you have match sights) at exactly 300 yards. So if your target's width is visable when you aim at it, it's less then 300 yards away, and if it is more narrow then your front sight, then that is a +300 yard shot. Laser range finders are awesome until they break or the batteries die. If you see a target off in the distance and you do not know the range, but have five Rifleman, get each to adjust their sights for the estimated range, then put a minor change on each of them so that when they open up at least one will hit. remember it is better to hit low then high. If your projectile hits air, you never see it. But if it kicks up a little dust when it hits ground, you can adjust your sights off that. "Whoever gets there with the mostest, fastest, wins." |
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Darur
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I think you need to start specifying that this applies to a real gun, not in paintball, otherwise you will have the sniper population reading this as "hey dat dude said we could be snip-er dudes!". |
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MT. Vigilante
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Don't the people in paintball who think thier snipers do that^ anyway? |
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MT. Vigilante
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So then by your definition, every woodsballer in the world is a "sniper." |
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Nickodemus
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I try to give them more credit then that, but with some of these forumers I may get suprised. Range estimation with MOA and mil-dot recticle. Most weapons either scoped or iron sighted are graduated in the MOAs. I explained a MOA earlier in this thread... now we will take it further for range estimation. Really easy if you have a scope with stadia lines of 1MOA: [(size of object in inches) X 100]/size of object in MOAs = range in yards Now if you don't have that fancy scope you can use your front sight also. First calculate the MOA width of your front sight: 21600/[(sight radius in inches X 2pie)/front sight width in inches)] = MOA Now to use it for estimating range. Say you calculated your front sight to be 8MOA with the second equation I gave you. How far away is your target? You want to shoot at a target with a 20 inch torso and your sight blanks it out perfectly. Use the first equation I gave you. [(20" torso) X 100]/8MOA = 250 yards Now for the scopes with mil-dots! Mils (3.6" @ 100 yards, or 36" @ 1000 yards). 1mil = 3.438MOA Remember when measuring the length of a target in mils to go from the center of the dot or hash mark to the center of the next one, not the edges. They are 1/4mil wide and 3/4 mil apart. Heres your equation: [(size of object in yards) X 1000]/size of object in mils = range in yards If a 6' man (2 yards) is 4 mils in your scope then he is exactly 500yds away. 2 X 1000/4 = 500 MOAs are 3.438x more precise then mils, but if your shooting a cannon at a building or vehichle use mils.
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Nickodemus
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I took a photo for you all, so that you may see some common calibers: http://img187.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc001703fl.jpg I will go from left to right. First is the 30-0-06, this is the smallest caliber I would shoot at 1000 yards. Next to that is the Win .308, this is a solid killer out to 500 yards. After that is the 7.62 x 39, this medium cartridge is what most of our troops get shot at them, and is comparable to our narrow flatter shooting .223 that is fired in the AR military rifles. This includes the AR-15 derivatives M-16 and M-4. The AR-10 has a Win .308 chambering. I wouldn't trust a 7.62 x 39 or .223 to have enough energy to be a one hit killer past 300 yards. All three of these rifle bullets in the photo are 7.62mm in diameter and considered .30 cal. On the other side of the paintball you get pistol bullets. I would not expect to do much with these past 100 yards. First is the .45 ACP and next to that is the .40 S&W. Both of the ones in the photo are hydra-shock hollow points, so they look a little bit shorter then the normal ball ammo. Right of those are the 9mm luger and .22L bullets. I consider the 9mm a cap gun bullet - people survive getting hit by these all the time so long as it avoids a critical organ. The .22L is a great cartridge for target practice. It is quiet, comfortable to shoot, and match grade ammo is cheap. Don't underestimate the .22L, the bullet is small and fast- here is a photo of my .22L rifle. http://img187.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc001736tb.jpg Edited by Nickodemus |
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Ghost-Rider
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Nickodemus
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Since this thread is in the wrong area and on "snipers," I am thinking about pulling out the shooting info I put into it. I would modify it, add too it, then put it into the new players forum under the topic of aiming. I never went over the fundamentals of a steady shot that I assumed everyone had, so I would brief over that. I would do it now, but don't have time... I know a lot of people do not see how this info relates to paintball. Maybe I should put it in T & O or leave it here? Those who are still reading this thread... should I let this info I typed slip into the unactive archive under the wrong topic because I was trying to prove a point? |
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warwingsaw3
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alright... Yeah, you are in the wrong forum topic area thingy for your subject, but hey, what the heck. You wanted to know if a sniper is a valid position in paintball? Two words. Heck yeah! When I play woodsball... wait a minute, heres my setup first: Tippmann 98 Custom (black) *cough, here we go again. When I play woodsball, I play one of two things. A sniper (covers the captain, or the leader). Or, I play Saw gunner (the big dude who likes to shoot everything that gets in his way). Your right, sniping isn't all hiding, but it is a valuable position to play in order to cover your teammates and take out other captains in scenario games. Nice meeting ya! |
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xxg-reaperxx
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you cant honestly snipe in paintball, now with the right equipment you can practice sharpshooting type tactics, but you cant really snipe.
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Sentinelz
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YEAH!!!1!!!one!!!shift+1!!! I get to use this again!!!1!!!one!!!shift+1!!! Edited by Sentinelz |
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Darur
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Explain |
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Sentinelz
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I wonder Darur since you're obviously much smarter than me as I click that damn link everytime I see it... would the ball fly straight if it had chambers and X amount of paint in the chambers? I went off to do math a few days ago posted a few times and then forgot and then remembered and then later remembered I can't do math or algebra I can barely handle geometry... |
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