the perfect sniper

very true so appex definately isnt such a great idea, and the flatline barrel, whats your input on that?

I've already mentioned this in another thread, but the BT Apex's flatline effect is inferior to the Flatline.  You can't shoot on your belly or other 'close to the ground' scenarios because the Apex shots dip down before the paintball levels out into it's flatline trajectory.  The Apex's ability to curve around trees or other obstacles doesn't work as advertised.  I've tried it with various tip settings and velocities.  I've even set up targets behind trees and rarely it them.  Now, the drop shot by the Apex WORKS and it works beautifully!  I have gotten many hits on people that were behind low brush or other physical barricades.  They thought somebody either shot them from behind or above them.  This is the only reason I use the Apex.  If I do need to shoot for distance, I'll swap it out for my trusty Flatline.  I can shoot from more positions that I never could with the Apex.

the gun i bought comes with a 32 degrees whisper barrel i think the name of it was, looks like a 14" maybe, he didnt say....  but i dont think range should be a problem, more range the better yes but in woodsball trees dont allways sit the way you want them to.

does the appex barrels ability to curve the paint actually work when used correctly

carl_the_sniper wrote: Just wondering, name a way that the flatline is better.

I like the way I can actually hold my marker level when I fire it.  I can do that with my Apex, but I have to have the flatline level set to a bare minimum if not almost off.  About 6 clicks on the Apex tip roughly equals the Flatline barrel.  But I have to point the marker up.  If I don't, ball dips and hits the ground about 30' in front of me. 

Carl - I own an Apex.  And a Flatline.  Actually, I own two Flatlines.

It is simple physics based on barrel design.  The Apex starts out straight, then curves at the end (in whatever direction).  The Flatline starts out uphill, the curves back to flat.

We aren't talking about trajectory, but where you point the gun.  If you want to do a divebomb, for instance, you don't point your gun at the bunker you are trying to shoot over - you point the gun at the ground.  Ditto for any other type of curve.  Because the Apex starts out straight, the curve at the end changes the exit direction of the ball as well as the spin.  The result of this is that you have to point the gun in non-intuitive directions, even before you get to the spin.

This is most visible with the side hooks.  Set the thing to max right hook, and then watch as the ball leaves your barrel headed about 30* to the left.

This makes "flatline mode" very difficult to aim for us barrel-aimers, since there is little relationship between where the barrel is pointed and where the ball is going.  The trajectory may be flat, but it isn't in the expected direction.

I found the Apex very interesting and lots of fun, but strictly specialty.  I prefer to put it on only for certain fields, with specific spots in mind.  The Flatline I can play with all day in any situation.