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TOM KAYE (AGD FOUNDER) RETIRED

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    Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:42pm
WHAT????  Tom Kaye the founder of AGD (Automags, Warps) is retiering and AGD will be under new management (His vice president of the company).  This is truly a somewhat sad day as it marks the end of an era in Paintball.  HE was one of if not the LAst real founders of the game and will now be leaveing 

I wonder what this means for AGD (Dang it i just got my MINI MAG TOO)

I think things shoul be fine as a man that has been Toms Right hand and has seen what it took to bring the company to it sucess is now runing the show so HOPEFULLY thing shuld go along as they always have just sort of seems sad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paintballu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:43pm
already posted

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pariel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:43pm
Well, this truly ends the first "era" of paintball. Lots of things changing:

-WGP starts hitting low end markets, practically backs out of the professional field (1 gun left there)
-AKA is gone
-Supposedly Glenn Palmer is leaving/left(not sure)
-Tippmann now controlled by huge company; my bet says it's shifting to more money-making ventures than its current low end line
-Tom Kaye ends his paintball career
-Odyssey (the maker of the Halo B and Halo TSA loaders) is on the brink of bankruptcy, the end of which could bring some serious high bidding on those loaders' patents.
-Smart Parts is sueing everyone for all their worth(not sure the current level this is at, last thing I heard was the WDP case many moons ago)

Basically, I see a huge change in market strategy that's saying "Big companies rule, little guys, leave". This could get ugly...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VTpaintballer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:43pm

ok now there is 2 topics about this?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VTpaintballer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:44pm
hahahhahahahha i like this!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Multi-Colored J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:45pm
There should be 2 topics like this, this is a big deal.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote :ShockeR_ratm: Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:45pm
wow you guys suck...he made this thread like a minute later than the other kid

but with the whole AGD dealy...yea it does suck...you never know though...maybe things can turn out for the better




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ilovepaintball1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 6:46pm
^^^^^^ Edit instead on double posting


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^ i'm to lazy to do that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BARREL BREAK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:02pm
I just saw the AO thread on this where tom actually announced it, links are always better: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160739 very sad, and now paintball is just another big sport, as it will continue to be, screw it, i dont **edited**ing want acceptance and "mainstream"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VTpaintballer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:05pm
ya its sorta like what happened to tippmann
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no, its not, Tom Kaye was a rock on which paintball climbed, tippmann just got bought, Tom is retiring, he's the man who introduced HPA, first use of electronic frame, did so much for the sport.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote boomstick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:19pm
This is a sad day for paintball.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VTpaintballer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:24pm
ya your right^^ man that guy was awesome he was smart too... he really helped bring paintball to another level, ya this blows
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This is like a Low Blow to the Entire sport... 

Originally posted by Tom Kaye Tom Kaye wrote:

With the recent downturn in the industry  it no longer makes sense for me


Originally posted by Tom Kaye Tom Kaye wrote:

I sincerely hope that paintball gets past its recent flurry of issues and comes together as the great game and industry we all know it can be.


I wonder if this has to do with Smart Parts in any sort of Way...?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VTpaintballer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2004 at 7:44pm
ya everything bad about paintball has to do with smart parts  no offense to people that like smart parts... i like the impulse but i still hate smart parts
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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

no, its not, Tom Kaye was a rock on which paintball climbed, tippmann just got bought, Tom is retiring, he's the man who introduced HPA, first use of electronic frame, did so much for the sport.

and ripdrives, regulators (i think) at least first one to come built in a gun, blow forward, power feed body's, made the first non lethal marker for the military training and only one, only one of 3 serviving companys from the 1980's, first all stainless body for a paintball marker, SLUGGO first body made for the player to mill it from scratch, the y and z grips, first reactive trigger system, first constant air system for 12 gram co2, twist lock barrel.



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