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    Posted: 07 August 2004 at 10:24pm

Imagine an A-5 with one cyclone on each side.

the hopper(s) could be just 2 regular a-5 hoppers or one big hopper that splits between the 2 cyclone

An internal valve would reciprocate(sp?) between the 2 cyclones, so they only feed one at a time.

 

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Ultra fast feed (40 bps+)

Large ammo capacity (400 to maybe 600)

 

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Heavy(4-5lbs+)

Large profile

 

Does that sound like a good idea or am I just a stupid loser?

 
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you wouldnt be gaining much speed since only on is feeding at a time it would be about the same as just having one. good thinking though it would work good with 2 barrels but then it would just be simpler to attach 2 a5s together

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I always hear that the A-5 is only limited by the speed of the cyclone.

Then it will be limited to the cyclic rate of the gun.

I dunno, i just thought it would be cool
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the a-5 isnt limited by the speed of the cyclone, cause the cyclone can already feed 40+ BPS
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Originally posted by warmonger83 warmonger83 wrote:

the a-5 isnt limited by the speed of the cyclone, cause the cyclone can already feed 40+ BPS

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I like the idea, but I would make the Cyclone Feed systems run by battery.  That way the gun doesn't use more C02.
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Originally posted by warmonger83 warmonger83 wrote:

the a-5 isnt limited by the speed of the cyclone, cause the cyclone can already feed 40+ BPS


No it cant.
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Then what can it feed?
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it feeds as fast as you ca pull the trigger
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40 balls a second?  I'm not sure there's that big a demand for that.  30 balls a second is already insanely fast and expensive.
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Originally posted by DeathRattle DeathRattle wrote:

40 balls a second?  I'm not sure there's that big a demand for that.  30 balls a second is already insanely fast and expensive.

40 bps would be cool

 
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ummm the cyclone can only go at 15bps sorry to burst your bubble
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40 bps is insane. the a5 does like 15-24 bps. the idea would be kinda dumb. sorry. good for you for trying though.
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 No! A woodsball gun with 2 Flatlines on 2 barrels (side by side), 2 cyclones (one on each side), and one trigger with a  R/T turned pu to full blast. BTW: Travis, you have it in reverse. The cyclone is limited by the speed of the gun (up to a point, but you couldn't get there with any gun i have seen).

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Originally posted by hashi2008 hashi2008 wrote:

 No! A woodsball gun with 2 Flatlines on 2 barrels (side by side), 2 cyclones (one on each side), and one trigger with a  R/T turned pu to full blast. BTW: Travis, you have it in reverse. The cyclone is limited by the speed of the gun (up to a point, but you couldn't get there with any gun i have seen).

the flatline is a barrel so that makes no sense. and  double e-grips would be better for two triggers hooked together with a feather light pull. so if you tap one of them they both go off. think about the double burst modes!!
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Originally posted by warmonger83 warmonger83 wrote:

the a-5 isnt limited by the speed of the cyclone, cause the cyclone can already feed 40+ BPS

I love the A-5, but I drought the Cyclone is that fast. let see some prof

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Originally posted by yaafm yaafm wrote:

I like the idea, but I would make the Cyclone Feed systems run by battery.  That way the gun doesn't use more C02.


it dosent, it uses leftover gas that is normally just released form the gun
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The cyclone will stop feeding around 20 bps. The problem is the spring-return operation. Since the cyclone actually feeds when the air is let off (the spring pushes the plunger back), when the gun is going too fast, theres not enough time for the cylinder to evacuate the air, and let the spring return.

If you dont believe me, you can prove it yourself. Remove your gripframe, cock the gun, and let it fly. The runaway speed on a tippmann is something like 30-40 bps, and youll notice the cyclone wont spin at all.

Thats probably a saving grace for tippmann, can you imagine if the thing did spin in runaway? You would chop the rest of your paint when you run out of air and your gun farts.
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ya, enos is right. the cyclone will stop feeding around 20bps. It'll feed reliable up to about 18 bps. enos, how can you increase the spped of the cyclone while keeping it reliable?
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Originally posted by Enos Shenk Enos Shenk wrote:

The cyclone will stop feeding around 20 bps.

The runaway speed on a tippmann is something like 30-40 bps, and youll notice the cyclone wont spin at all.

2 cyclones = 35-40 bps feeding speed.

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