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SebastianBlack
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Topic: Snipers, an enlightened viewPosted: 15 February 2005 at 4:40pm |
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Before posting in this thread, please keep your comments civil and your arguement clean and well thought out. It would be nice to have a decent, non arguementive debate.
So I was thinking about it when I had nothing else to do in class. Sniper, the term, was derived from an indian sport where a person would go into the woods and flush a small bird, known as a snipe out of the bushes. It was a very fast moving bird that ran across the ground. Because of this, the hunters had to be very fast, and shoot very much on reaction and instinct. Now, I was trying to think where this actually fits into paintball, and finally, I admit, there are snipers in paintball. In speedball, the ability to snapshoot is a sought after skill. You have to watch out of the corner of your eye, take aim and eliminate a person that could be diving behind cover, or aiming at you. Therefore, I will say there are snipers in paintball....just not the guy that dresses up like a flower garden and lays in the back. Edited by SebastianBlack |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:42pm |
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everyone is a sniper in paintball...
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:43pm |
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i will never admit that ther are snipers in paintball, ever. my definition of sniper is the marksman/sharpshooter in the military or those guys in washington dc last year who sit and shoot from far distances and hit ther targets. that doesnt happen in paintball
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Reb Cpl
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:46pm |
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No, he's got a point. There IS an accurate application of the term when one looks at the initial derivation of the word and what it entailed. In the original sense of the word, yes, there are snipers in paintball, in exactly the context that Seb has mentioned. The application of the evolved term is erronious however, given the more complex components of the term. I wonder how long before I'm gonna have to lock this. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:47pm |
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Yeah I've been snipe hunting.
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:50pm |
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So if the snipers were sharpshooters hunting Snipes
Wouldn't sharpshooters hunting paintball players be, paintballers! |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:52pm |
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Careful dave, you'll confuse the children. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:55pm |
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No...That was confusing. Sadly I understood Dave. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:55pm |
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...Here is a cookie. I agree with your point of view, but the term has evolved per se over the years and now is devided into to defenitions. Dictionary, and military. By dictionary there are paintball snipers, by military there aren't. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:56pm |
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ROFLcopter |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:56pm |
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You misunderstood that? I thought it was a rather lucid and comprehensible assessment. Edited by Reb Cpl |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:58pm |
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The modern image and tactics of snipers, with there special camo suites or guile suites, originated during the first world war. There were these Scottish marksmen who were hired by this rich landowner to protect his livestock, they invented a type of camouflage suite that could blend in to any environment using torn rags and stuff that were natural colors, they were later employed by the British army as snipers. But you don’t have to sneak around wearing a bush to be a sniper, in WW 2 there were snipers in both the American and British armies who wore regular uniforms and advanced w/ their squad of regular infantrymen, in short they were just regular soldiers who were very good shots and had a scoped M-1903 riffle instead of an M-1. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:59pm |
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ding ding ding. Dave win. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 4:59pm |
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AHHH CURSE YOU and your big fancy words!!!! j/k. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 5:02pm |
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There is a reason I stated it as plainly as I did. I superceded both this term, the common military term and the over used paintball term. I defined it as per the origins of the word, yes, you are mostly correct, however, where did the scots get the term, I.E. What is the origin of the sniper. We can argue semantics till the sun goes down, but you can not argue the original meaning. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 5:02pm |
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Not a bad recitation. Its a little deeper than that, but it'll serve. *Stealth* and I put together a rather brilliant little post concerning the origins and the history of the term and its applications...that was a long time ago. Edited by Reb Cpl |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 5:10pm |
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It takes me quite some time to be able to properly place words like that in a coherant sentence, and its a rare occasion that I get to use them...so I seize every opportunity that I can..
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 5:11pm |
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Yea, I was just trying to give a basic summary of the origins of the modern sniper, the whole Idea of snipers in warfare actually originates with us Americans in the Revolutionary war, although they weren’t called snipers then. But I’m sure you knew that. |
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 5:20pm |
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hahahahahahha oh man... now I see why I stay on this forum... ![]() |
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SebastianBlack
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Posted: 15 February 2005 at 6:36pm |
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wow, this is one of the shortest sniper threads I've ever seen, atleast, that dont include flaming
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