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    Posted: 13 June 2005 at 10:08am
I wiped paint in the last game I played. It was a large scenario game, and a group of us were guarding the path down the tapeline. Maybe 200ft. down that trail was ~10 enemy players, clumped up and slowly inching forward. One of them was shooting full-auto at us, but we were so far out of range, the balls would hit the ground 50 ft. in front of us, then roll into our positions. After a few minutes of his wasted paint, I looked down and noticed a broken ball on my hopper. I wiped it and told myself that he didn't earn the hit so it was okay to wipe. Yes, I was wrong; I know that. I'm not trying to justify my decision; I'm hear to admit my guilt and ask forgiveness from my fellow players.

Let me just say that my personal rule is that I will leave the game, and have on several occassions, if they got a good hit on me, REGARDLESS of whether the ball broke or not. If they earned the kill, I give it to them, even if a fluke prevents the ball from breaking. So, you see, it's not that I just don't like getting out. I guess I figured that, because the guy didn't earn the kill, I wasn't going to give it to him. I realize now that I have no right to make that kind of call. He hit me, and that should have been it.

That's the first time I've ever wiped, and it WILL be the last time. I'm sorry.
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You are not forgiven my son. To repent for this grave sin, you must sign up for the Yahoo Pool tournament. GO! OR I'LL USE THE BRICK!!!
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We're sorry but, Tippmann Pnuematics does NOT tolerate cheating of ANY kind. If you have acted in any form of cheating you must send you're marker in right away.  If you don't know how to play fair games of paintball, theres is no need for you to have a gun.

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Big woop, EVERYONE has cheated at one time or another.

If I get shot in the leg running to a bunker I slide on it, nothing wrong with that. I;m not going to stop midway and check to see if it broke.

Let the refs do their jobs, I was a ref so I know what it’s like.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Big woop, EVERYONE has cheated at one time or another.


That doesn't make it right though. But hey, hearing about how dishonest you are, I don't feel so bad. Thanks!

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Excuse me, I see no sign-up on the Pool tournament..
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I never said cheating was right. But it’s also not Black and White. Splat magazine did a good article on it a while back, when I get home I’ll try and type it all up…

JM, when I was saying everyone did it, I meant in some form or another

I slide if shot in leg, some say cheating, some say not.

I consider cheating what Chris Lasoya does. He cheats paintball out of fun. He cheats paintball out of fans. He cheats right infront of people/refs.

There is not a single sport where you wont see someone try to cheat.


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Eh. It happens.

Its a game. I despise when people do it with regularity. If you do it once, it still sucks, but like I said. It happens. Don't make a habit of it and you'll be fine.

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Well despite what others do, or condone, I feel bad about what I did, so in the spirit of honesty, I'm letting everyone know. Not that any of you know me though, or give damn what I do or why I do it...so maybe this is pointless.
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I consider cheating stealing.

If you cheat, the person that just hit you had to shoot a paintball, and paint cost money. Cheating is stealing money. End of Discussion.

Like I said, if you don’t KNOW if it broke, it isn’t cheating.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

I only “cheat” if I get shot on leg and slide since I don’t know if it broke…… which is not considered cheating from a refs point of view.


If you're deciding to slide just to coverup a possible break, then I'd say you're cheating.
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I dont call myself out if the the ball doesnt break. I dont think I should either.

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No, if the ball doesnt break, its not cheating if you don't call it.

I hate cheaters. I played with the school wrestling team because the coach invited me. They were the most awful cheaters I have ever seen. It got to the point where the refs couldnt keep up with them, so they just made sure we werent hurting each other instead of calling out players who had been hit. There were guys hit 3, 4, and 5 times who were still standing and shooting.

That was the only day that I conciously cheated. I was so steamed at these guys that I wiped a ball break off my hopper and kept going.

You're right though. I'd feel like a jerk if I did it. It's just a game, theres no reason to get so serious about it that you've got to cheat.  

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Ehhh...big deal.

I "Marker-Whipped" my buddy cuz I got pissed that he kept lacin' paint at me after I had called out...busted the thing that keeps your strap tight to your head.

And I've taken a handful of paint and smeared it in another buddy's face cuz he kept shooting past my head when I didn't have my gogs on.

Oooh...and once...when I was playing one on one with my buddy George...I snuck up on him while he was taking a tinkle and came 1.5" away from shooting his "stuff*(he measured), and on top of it all...in his rush to put his *stuff* away...he tinkled himself.

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That’s the gray area JM.

What would you like me to do? Stop halfway to a bunker and check my leg? No sorry that’s dumb.

I play the snake, I’m going to slide no matter what, if it was a break oh well, let the ref do his job. I’m there to play, not ref.

Now if I get shot in the mask or some place where I see it break, I call myself out, but if it’s on the side of the leg, sorry, not cheating unless I KNOW it broke…
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Big woop, EVERYONE has cheated at one time or another.

If I get shot in the leg running to a bunker I slide on it, nothing wrong with that. I;m not going to stop midway and check to see if it broke.

Let the refs do their jobs, I was a ref so I know what it’s like.

I shot myself once in the foot and wiped.... is that cheating?


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In most normal play marker/hooper hits count? I have never played that rule, but then I have never played anywhere a ref has been and until recently havent played the one hit your out rule.

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Originally posted by ^Pirate^ ^Pirate^ wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Big woop, EVERYONE has cheated at one time or another.

If I get shot in the leg running to a bunker I slide on it, nothing wrong with that. I;m not going to stop midway and check to see if it broke.

Let the refs do their jobs, I was a ref so I know what it’s like.

I shot myself once in the foot and wiped.... is that cheating?



Depends. Shooting yourself is friendly fire. Fields will usually state a rule whether or not friendly fire is an out or not.
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