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Gulfster
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Topic: Creating the most efficient gunPosted: 14 February 2006 at 8:40pm |
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Hi, I'm fairly new to paintballing, but I've been doing my research. I just bought the Custom Pro and would like to follow a path of upgrades to make it efficient as possible. I've got a lot of ideas going through my head so this post might get a little confusing. I guess I'll just post my questions and thoughts and let you guys confirm, critic, and add to them. Also, I've read a couple of the sticky'd topics and these gave me ideas, but some of them went back and forth and left me unsure. LIKELY ORDER OF UPGRADES Barrel: Either 12" bigshot or j&j, this doesn't have a lot to do with efficiency so i guess you don't need to put to much in on this, just reccomend one and say why. mods from model98.org - use tank o-ring on front bolt to seal it better from backpressure, polish internals, fix trigger slop, all the other trigger mods, and the graphite lubricant thing (not sure if the graphite thing is good or not, anyone who recommends it or warns away from it?) DOP/Proseal power tube and front bolt - is this a decent choice? what else is out there and how do they compare? FOLLOWING UPGRADES AREN'T IN ANY ORDER (LET ME KNOW WHAT ORDER IS BEST) R/T trigger- i'd like to stay mechanical. I've also heard the R/T has more potential than the E-grip. I've heard of the super R/T and would definitely like to go with it. what is different about the super R/T? where can i get it? What does QEV stand for? what does it do? (i know it has to do with the cyclone and increasing ball feed) obviously for efficiency I need to go with something besides CO2. This leaves me with HPA/Nitrogen. Are HPA and N2 two seperate options or is N2 a form of HPA? Basicly let me know what the best way to go is for this upgrade. Palmer stabilizer/regulator - from what I know this is a must for efficiency. Please explain my options and any other upgrades that would go along with it. no expansion chamber if i'm going to HPA/N2 because it won't make a difference, correct? Can't think of anything else right now, thanks for your help. I know this is a lot of questions and might require one of you experts! Thanks again!
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:45pm |
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Get.12".Bigshot
R/T.is.more.efficient.I.guess.,but.it's.illegal.@.a.lot.of.p laces QEV.stands.for.Quick.Exhaust.Valve,it.releases.more.air.to.t he.cyclone HPA&N2.are.the.same.thing,just.get.a.crossfire.carbon.fi ber.tank |
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SuzukiRider987
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:54pm |
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hybrid-sniper
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 8:56pm |
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Don't make multiple threads asking the same thing. |
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SuzukiRider987
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:02pm |
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Wow Hybrid. Both you and I answered the same questions (due to his 2x post) at the same time (8:54), in almost the same way (you in NP's, me in U&C). Great minds think alike. |
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:28pm |
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your space bar is sporatically adding spaces like in "fiber" and "places" |
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:32pm |
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:36pm |
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^^ that is because it is broke.
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Gulfster
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:37pm |
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Sorry about posting it twice. I just wanted to maximize the speed of my results, won't happen again. Thanks for all your help. Just curious about LPK. What is it and why would it require bigger hoses? Is it something I should look ... nevermind. Figured out it's low pressure kit. anyways, is the LPK something I should look in to? By its name I'm assuming it just lowers operating pressure and therefore saves air. Is it compatable with the other stuff mentioned? As for the QEV, even though it isn't necessary, where can I get it? For the palmer stabilizer ill need - palmer male stab(from the palmer pursuit website?), vertical adapter, new hoses? how long?, anything else? Are there any other websites that the stabilizer is cheaper at? If there is more stuff required, is it available in a package anywhere? sorry about all the questions, Thanks. |
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 9:43pm |
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one more thing, I'm not going to be playing speedball, so thats not a concern. Also, for filling up the HPA tank. Can I also do that at places that fill up CO2 (like sports authority), or must that be done at paintball shops / fields? |
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Posted: 14 February 2006 at 10:56pm |
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 4:38pm |
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If I'm getting the LPK which QEV do I go with? When I read the desciption for the LP QEV it says if you have the RT to get the HP QEV. Which one do I get? Do I just buy the QEV by itself? Also, do I need this adapter for the cyclone and R/T? http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.pr odInfo&productID=736&categoryID=49 |
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 4:43pm |
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Also, tippmanpros.com says you need an addition regulator for the LPK. Does this mean i need this http://www.tippmannpros.com/Tippmann-Inline-Regulator-P107C4 7.aspx ? Or is that what my palmers will be for? |
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SuzukiRider987
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 6:40pm |
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I wouldn't get the LPK. But if you do get the LPK, then yes, your palmers (Male version for the LPK) is your secondary regulator. |
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Gulfster
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 8:24pm |
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I respect anyones advice on here because you all are more experienced then me, but what are some reasons why not to get the LPK? Also, any answers for my question above (about the QEV) if I were to get the LPK? Thanks. Edit: About my barrel, what difference would there be if I got the 8" bigshot instead of the 12"? (the only reason i ask this is because the 8" is obviously more compact) Edited by Gulfster - 15 February 2006 at 8:27pm |
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 10:17pm |
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I have a lpk on my 98c and i havent noticed any increase in performance at all other than it may be a bit smoother but for me i wish i could get my money out of that mod.
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Posted: 15 February 2006 at 10:21pm |
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I'm not sure what is wrong with the LPK I haven't used one or no anyone with one however sometimes people say it's not worth $100. A 8" barrel would be about the same as a 12" and they say a shorter barrel will use less air which means more shots per tank. |
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Posted: 16 February 2006 at 7:41pm |
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cyclone+response trigger+palmer's stab.= a very reliable, highly
diversified and efficient marker(by efficient, i mean you will be able
to get the job done fairly easily) - it does'nt get the greatest "gas
mileage" only when you are shooting alot, if you control yourself, it
will be great!!!
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Posted: 16 February 2006 at 7:51pm |
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wait this makes me mad. he double posts in 2 forums and gets nothing, i
get a strike!. o well, at least people were kind to me and took one of
mine away. one more month till im clean...
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Posted: 16 February 2006 at 9:54pm |
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Really, it's your choice if you want the LPK. IMHO, it's not worth it. I mean, reduced kick and lower operating pressures aren't worth the $100, plus the cost of a secondary reg IMO. I feel that there are better things to spend your $ on. And I believe you'll want the LP QEV. As for the barrel lengths. Performance wise, there will not be a difference between the 8'' and 12" barrels. So, get whatever you feel you want, and will benefit your game the most.
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