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strykerx15
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im sure many of you are familier with the spyder paintball gun . and how it works . well i was thinking what if you put the valve , cup seal ,and lower bolt on the top of the paintgun . i have a design and i plan on bouilding one . it whould work . i am just wondering what you guys think . i also have a few designs for a system that uses a lever insted of a cup seal . i have drawen this out and its almost fool proof . i have to work on the lever cup seal . but the entire body of the paintball gun is going to be smaller than a pgp . it will be very light and have cci threads and detents so i can make it eaven smaller . im am going to post a picture one i make it a littil more clearly .
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Sounds cool I guess you would have to get used to the gun size.
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yeah i cauculated the size to be about an inch or 2 longer than a A5 grip frame from screw hole to screw hole on the top
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cool, have you seen the ebladed pgp? i think the idea of a small pistol sized gun that is capable or high speeds is cool. i personally like the ebladed pgp with the coz quickcanger thats set up vertically is sweet, just put a small mag over the coz changer and that would look so sweet
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well im trying to decide if i want to design a new valve system or just use the cup seal system cuz with my design im running it to problems . but i have a few other ideas i can try .
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its still bigger than a micro mag.
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lighter and prolly smaller
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i plan on using a spyder tl plus for the prototype .
i already know how its goint to work out . i just need someone to weld on the feed neck . |
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Right off the top of my head I am seeing several major design hurdles. |
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the only thing im having truble with is the anti chop . there might not be enuff room . but theres no anti chop on and A-5 . or a stock mag and people dont have to many problems
hybrid name some of your thoughts , maybe they can help me out with the design |
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I want a picture of a rough draft of it or something.
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First off, the bolt receives air from underneath. How is it going to get air if the valve is in the same tube? How is the bolt going to move forward if the bolt pin is not engaged on the striker? |
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well hear we go .
the orange is the air way and the yellow is the main components the first is my design i came up with tonight . the whole bottom tube and valve on a spyder is scaled down and put in the grip with an airthrue asa . the bolt is a blow foward design . the air pushes the bolt foward and when it hits a certin point it enters a hole in the bottom and gose thrue it and enters infront of that original hole and then out the fromt of the bolt to fire the paintball . the velocity is on the grip on the bottom http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m26/dauntless15/?action=v iew¤t=HPIM2221.jpg http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m26/dauntless15/?action=v iew¤t=HPIM2223.jpg the secand is my original design . very small scale . this is no wares near finished .this is a blow back design when the valve is hit there is an outer macro line that gose up to the bolt . that is the line diagnil in the middil of the body . and the air enters the bolt thrue the side . its tricky but it will work . the velocity is chaged same as a spyder . this is much easyer to build that my first design up top http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m26/dauntless15/?action=v iew¤t=HPIM2230.jpg thease are not scale to scale drawings but both will be smaller than you really think . the bottom one will be as long as a spyder grip fram and as tall as a two tube marker . and the barrel will enter the threads twords the middil of both markers . both will be cci threading so its a small threding . and the same cci detents if pics dont work let me know Edited by strykerx15 - 20 September 2007 at 11:40pm |
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What is holding the bolt in the retracted position?
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Do I have to sign up into photobucket to view otherwise the links aren't working.
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a spring kinda like the auto mag |
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i think you do . if there is another way then someone tell me . |
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Now I don't know how mags work, but wouldn't the spring in a cocked postion be trying to open, thereby pushing the bolt forward? |
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no spring is in the front . so the air pressure puse sit foward and then exits thue a hile halfe way to fire
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for the love of God please just insert the picture of it in this thread so we don't need to get bombarded by spy ware @ photobucket. |
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